England V Republic of Ireland - Wednesday, 29th May 2013 - Friendly

**BonnieShels** · 28/05/2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

If anybody answers 'No' to this question you'd have to seriously question their commitment.

The only thing that could lessen the annoyance of that result would be to qualify, that still wouldn't eliminate it completely mind you!

I blanked out the Austria result until everytime I saw Alaba on the ball on Saturday and I got sickened again and again.

It kills me still.

**Grafter** · 28/05/2013, 11:48 AM

[QUOTE=Stuttgart88;1688307 I reckon we'll go behind early to England and they'll all start laughing and get complacent before we take charge of the game in the second half and come away with yet another famous draw.[/QUOTE]

I think the English lads might not be as focused on the game with Brazil game in Rio coming next.... On Brazil-Eng, that John Barnes 1984 dribble must be the most overrated goal ever!

**DeLorean** · 28/05/2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Grafter

I think the English lads might not be as focused on the game with Brazil game in Rio coming next.... On Brazil-Eng, that John Barnes 1984 dribble must be the most overrated goal ever!

Suppose it was more the fact that it was Brazil than anything.

**DeLorean** · 28/05/2013, 12:10 PM

Not a patch on this

....

**geysir** · 28/05/2013, 12:35 PM

When it comes to England at the Finals, I expect them to go out, so I'm not that stressed about them not losing.
Somehow they have maintained a long term consistency to keep them seeded for qualification draws and high in the general rankings. Nevertheless, I wouldn't regard them as in the world's top 10 now and not since Sven's time. They didn't qualify for Euro 2008, were well beaten after the group stage in the last 2 finals and didn't impress (with a top 10 quality) in those Finals' group games. I wouldn't be that surprised if Montenegro get a result at Wembley.

Even if we do get a good result in this game, it will probably happen by doing something we don't do in the competitive games and it's not likely to lead to any change in the approach to the important autumn qualifiers.

**EAFC_rdfl** · 28/05/2013, 3:05 PM

Must be some hangover :-) come on we are all waiting!!!

**tetsujin1979** · 28/05/2013, 3:14 PM

team announced: https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status...99223076347905

Trap's starting XI for #EngIrl tomorrow:
Forde, Coleman, O'Shea, St Ledger, Kelly, Walters, McCarthy, Whelan, McGeady, Keane, Long #COYBIG

**Charlie Darwin** · 28/05/2013, 3:15 PM

Classic Trap.

**paul_oshea** · 28/05/2013, 3:22 PM

But looks like England are going 4-4-2 as well. Two stalwarts of the 4-4-2 game.

But yes, definitely classic trap. We learn nothing, but at least against England where its a bit more important about getting a draw or a win. We can only hope that he changes it for the Georgia game, but I very much doubt it.

**IsMiseSean** · 28/05/2013, 3:30 PM

Feckin Glenn Whelan

**peadar1987** · 28/05/2013, 3:39 PM

Not the worst team he could have picked. Maybe I would have gone for Brady or McClean instead of Walters on the wing, and Gibson instead of Whelan, but personnel-wise, not too bad. Now let's just hope he lets them play football!

**DannyInvincible** · 28/05/2013, 3:46 PM

Originally Posted by JGKyne

Feckin Glenn Whelan

So long as fit, Whelan's place was never in doubt.

Originally Posted by peadar1987

Not the worst team he could have picked. Maybe I would have gone for Brady or McClean instead of Walters on the wing, and Gibson instead of Whelan, but personnel-wise, not too bad. Now let's just hope he lets them play football!

Gibson's in Marbella enjoying his stag-do.

**DeLorean** · 28/05/2013, 3:48 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Forde, Coleman, O'Shea, St Ledger, Kelly, Walters, McCarthy, Whelan, McGeady, Keane, Long

**Stuttgart88** · 28/05/2013, 4:00 PM

At least we now know that when fit Keane is ahead of Sammon. And McGeady is ahead of McClean too. I expect similar to Stockholm, with Keane playing between the two lines. At least we'll be familiar with all of them. Long needs to keep his head.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 28/05/2013, 4:26 PM

To be fair would expect RMK, or just about any other Keane who's eligible, to be ahead of Sammon.
Without revisiting the 'debate' about whether notable absentees, Best, Folan or half the LOI should be ahead of that donkey.

**shakermaker1982** · 28/05/2013, 4:30 PM

The FA are giving us an Irish dancing show before the big game kicks off....ffs

Bar Whelan it's probably the best team we can put out given the circumstances.

England's pace is gonna be a problem...Walcott could have a field day out there. Need to keep it nice & tight for the first 45 so that the English fans get on there back a bit. If their tails are up at Wembley with an early goal it could be 4-0

**DannyInvincible** · 28/05/2013, 4:36 PM

Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

To be fair would expect RMK, or just about any other Keane who's eligible, to be ahead of Sammon.
Without revisiting the 'debate' about whether notable absentees, Best, Folan or half the LOI should be ahead of that donkey.

Ha, haven't been keeping tabs on Folan of late so just decided to check out what he's up to. He's now a free agent after his spell with T-Team in Malaysia. He failed to score in his ten appearances for them.

**AlaskaFox** · 28/05/2013, 7:22 PM

Piece I did on how the 1995 violence could have been prevented. Chatted to Les Ferdinand about his recollections of the game:
http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...t?ICID=HP_TS_3

**tricky_colour** · 28/05/2013, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by MeathDrog

1-1 I'd say.

6 out of the last 13 games have finished 1-1 which makes available odds of 9-1 look pretty good, indeed I just stuck �1 on just because of that.

But those results were over 20 years ago and no doubt Ireland were higher ranked (fifa ranking don't go back that far, last listed ranking is 6th!! in 1993.