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    What annoyed me about the whole incident and what seems to be getting missed out here, Irrespective of the hawk-eye clusterfcuk the referee is the final arbiter of the game. So he still had the final say no matter what hawk-eye said. He chose not to give the point despite it being over all day.

    Hawk-eye is an aid. That is all. The referee's decision is final and he made a mess of this one.
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    I see the Limerick manager is having a go at the "technology": http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...erick-players/

    “My view is that Hawk-Eye, at this moment in time, has let the association down. It has let players down and it has let managers down. It has failed.”

    Wallace acknowledged that the introduction of the score detection system had received overwhelming support at GAA Congress last year, but now questions the basis on which delegates were convinced of the merits of the technology.

    “We are all aware of (the support) but what was (the Hawk-Eye technology) sold on? Was it sold on the basis that it was infallible, that it could not make a mistake? Well we are now dealing with the reality of its mistake. It did not award a point to the Limerick minors who should have won that game.”

    “Not alone do we not have confidence in Hawk-Eye at this stage, but how could Davy Fitzgerald and Jimmy Barry Murphy have confidence in a system that has proved to be not as infallible as it was claimed to be.”
    The technology works fine; you just have to make sure some eejit doesn't set it incorrectly first. Didn't the GAA admit it was a human setting error rather than a "Hawk-Eye error"?

    Anyway, as Bonnie also points out, the system is simply an aid which the referee can ignore or over-rule.

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    Its what I feared, a backlash against the tech, when it was just human error.

    But losing managers are going to bitch anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    What annoyed me about the whole incident and what seems to be getting missed out here, Irrespective of the hawk-eye clusterfcuk the referee is the final arbiter of the game. So he still had the final say no matter what hawk-eye said. He chose not to give the point despite it being over all day.

    Hawk-eye is an aid. That is all. The referee's decision is final and he made a mess of this one.
    Chill out Bonnie.
    Yes the ref is the final arbiter and he deferred to hawk eye, that was his arbitration. The ref did good but you want to hang him out to dry?
    But what mercy can we expect from fascist loving, haters of the beautiful game, like yourself?
    Go polish your bovver boots.

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    Appeal rejected, which was to be expected: http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...ek-eye-appeal/

    I think the argument is that a Hawk-Eye malfunction isn't covered under the rules or something. Limerick GAA are pressing on with appeals to other authorities, but its all doomed to failure I imagine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Chill out Bonnie.
    Yes the ref is the final arbiter and he deferred to hawk eye, that was his arbitration. The ref did good but you want to hang him out to dry?
    But what mercy can we expect from fascist loving, haters of the beautiful game, like yourself?
    Go polish your bovver boots.
    Well really I want the umpires hung out to dry. Too often they're seen guessing points when they can just say to the ref "I don't know".

    His actual "arbitration" was that he felt he could not award the point because of what hawk-eye stated. Despite the obvious contradictions of the two screens that hawk-eye showed.

    So how you could state he "did good" I do not know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Appeal rejected, which was to be expected: http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/...ek-eye-appeal/

    I think the argument is that a Hawk-Eye malfunction isn't covered under the rules or something. Limerick GAA are pressing on with appeals to other authorities, but its all doomed to failure I imagine.
    Why is it still being reported as a Hawk-Eye malfunction when the GAA have admitted that human error in the setting of the system was to blame? It was set for football rather than hurling.

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    I know it was human error, I'm just using "malfunction" in the sense of "didn't work as wanted". The tech is sound. Try telling that to the Limerick minor manager of course, but he has a vested interest in discrediting the system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I know it was human error, I'm just using "malfunction" in the sense of "didn't work as wanted". The tech is sound. Try telling that to the Limerick minor manager of course, but he has a vested interest in discrediting the system.
    I was more directing my post at RTÉ who described it as such in the story. It's careless and gives people a completely incorrect impression of what is, as you say, pretty sound technology.

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    If Mayo win the All-Ireland I'll seriously consider emigrating....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IsMiseSean View Post
    If Mayo win the All-Ireland I'll seriously consider emigrating....
    Off you go .... the place will be better without you .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by swinfordfc View Post
    Off you go .... the place will be better without you .......
    Harsh...

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    Mayo people are a feisty race.

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    During the match on Sunday they did a 360 degree panorama of the stadium. I looked at where I was in the crowd and I have my head in my hands. Checking the big screen to see when that was and it was just after Peter Harte was crushed. Tyrone were up 0-05 to 0-03 at that stage.

    But interestingly you can zoom in on the RTE box that Brolly and co were in and Spillane is sitting behing Joe with the others sitting beside him. Poor Pat.

    Disappointed with the result and some of the refereeing decisions. Mayo again showed how easy they are to get the yips before a game. Roll on Sunday. Can't come quick enough.
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    I have to say I was getting worried after 30 minutes. Mayo not at the races at all. Very sloppy in possession and wasteful in front of the posts. Not sure who'd I prefer to meet in the final. I imagine Dublin are favourites?
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    I couldn’t believe most of the Mayo people I was talking to about the game would prefer to play Dublin rather than Kerry based on historical precedent. But if I was Mayo I would be taking Kerry all day everyday. However, if Mayo were to start like they did against Dublin or Kerry they would be in serious trouble and won’t get away with it.

    Dublin are the clear favourites at this stage. Of course they still have to go through Kerry but by all accounts based on this and last year they really should.
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    Hmm, have this nasty nasty feeling about Kerry.

    Diablo Rouge to thread...

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    I dunno. This Dublin team just aren't as brittle as we used to be. I reckon us by 2.

    If we are in the lead at half-time we won't give it up.
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    Maybe, but came across the usual smug/'arrogant'? Kerry fans last weekend who can be very annoying and who were super confident...

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    They always are. That’s why a thumping on Sunday will be all the sweeter.
    Heaven forbid the other 30 of us might have to trust Mayo to beat them in the final.
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