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    If I had to, even with a gun put to my head, I'd have a difficulty to choose between Lawro and McGrath.
    Similar ability to seamlessly adapt to different positions.

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    If you really want to seperate them, just take a couple of notches off Lawro for his awful jokes and really annoying voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    If I had to, even with a gun put to my head, I'd have a difficulty to choose between Lawro and McGrath.
    Similar ability to seamlessly adapt to different positions.
    Yeah very true. Lawrenson was a truely world class centre half and as you say could adapt to several positions. Would have gone on for a few more seasons only for the injury.
    Lets talk about six baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    If you really want to seperate them, just take a couple of notches off Lawro for his awful jokes and really annoying voice.
    He's funnier than Franz Beckenbauer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    He's funnier than Franz Beckenbauer.
    Probably, but at least Franz knows he's not funny.

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    Hardfécker Legends 11


    Not based on mere hacking ability and selected off the cuff.


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    Irwin Hurley Moran Kinnear
    Keane, Giles, Grealish Galvin
    Cascarino Cantwell


    Keane is included, partly on merit and partly for humane considerations, so the modern generation who have grown up on the Keane myth, don't blow a gasket in that part of their anatomy where indignation is stored.

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    No Dunne?!

    Whacking his face off that grille in Moscow was all in vain so?

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    Mick McCarthy instead of Irwin maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Keane is included, partly on merit and partly for humane considerations, so the modern generation who have grown up on the Keane myth, don't blow a gasket in that part of their anatomy where indignation is stored.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    No Dunne?!

    Whacking his face off that grille in Moscow was all in vain so?
    Moran would have grabbed the replacement shirt and written the number with his own blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Lawrenson's had the best club career of any Irish defender, winnig everything in England and a European cup too.

    Scored the most important goal for Ireland in the Euro 88 qualifiers too IMO

    He'd be in my first xi, without a shadow of a doubt
    Quote Originally Posted by KK77 View Post
    Yeah very true. Lawrenson was a truely world class centre half and as you say could adapt to several positions. Would have gone on for a few more seasons only for the injury.
    'World-class'?
    Hmm. An element of rose-tinted spectacles here I reckon. He was good, but not as good as you make out.
    Though do acknowledge his versatility.

    And what's his club career got to do with it? If that was the criteria, then the most divisive player in Irish soccer history would be a cert....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    'World-class'?
    And what's his club career got to do with it? If that was the criteria, then the most divisive player in Irish soccer history would be a cert....
    Club career is part of the 'legend' criteria, and so it should.

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    Gary Breen is cast-iron evidence that's not the case!

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    If one was to also consider Ballon d'Or votes for the European player of the year (up until 2006), then Liam Brady stands out as the most lauded Irish player, with 3 or 4 brilliant seasons where he made it into the top 10 each year. Roy Keane made it into the top 10 on one occasion.

    McGrath was also noted, picked up a few votes for 3 or 4 seasons.

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    Exactly.

    Stick the 3 of them in.

    Bin Lawro or Duff.

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    If you want to ditch Lawro from a CH position, who do you want to partner McGrath?
    We can say that McGrath, even if he hadn't a career with the top club, he was quite capable of it.
    Lawrenson was a confirmed fixture in the best team in England and one of the best teams in Europe. Dunne didn't quite reach that standard, but you could consider that when Dunne was in his prime, he had to face more competition from Johnny Foreigners vying for places at the top epl clubs.
    I just think that Lawro had much more football ability than Dunne and in the position at stake - CH. Could Lawro have performed like that in Moscow? I doubt it, that performance defied science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squareball View Post
    Get Houghton out of that team Duff on right, Brady on left and Roy Keane in beside Giles.
    Did you ever see Houghton play? Having seen just about every game of the Charlton era, he was arguably the most effective player of those years. Up and down that line like a demented hornet not to mention the two special goals that make him the legend that he should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Already mentioned is the deserved measure that Frank O'Neill was held in, by the (Shamrock Rovers dominated) selection panel, with his inclusion into the list of legends.
    My vote would have gone to Al Finucane, who has more than a strong case to be regarded as thee nr.1 LOI legend. He was a supremely gifted defender, graced with elegant footballing abilities.
    But an automatic top 50 spot should have been held for Joe Haverty

    I have no connection with Al's clubs (Limerick and Waterford), so no need to reply to this if you are only going to promote the merits of some 'legend' from your own LOI club
    I would equate Al Finucane with Johnny Fulham. In the words of my bete noir, "good players but not great players". O'Neill was class.
    Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.

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    Johnny Fulham was a plodder compared to Al Finucane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Did you ever see Houghton play? Having seen just about every game of the Charlton era, he was arguably the most effective player of those years. Up and down that line like a demented hornet not to mention the two special goals that make him the legend that he should be.
    I agree - Houghton was the engine that drove that team and delivered success in the Charlton era - hugely influential, a winner with superb skills. Same at Liverpool a huge %age of Rush's goals came from Houghton assists. If you want a team that wins games consistently then you would want him starting.

    Along with Keane and McGrath I dont think I've seen better.

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