That's where player sponsorship comes in.Originally Posted by kingpin4
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I doubt it tbf why if they are staying would they be turning others away? Fair enough if some lads leave they might talk like that but any of the lads that stay will surely want better players in with them so will talk it up if asked. When pre-season is started and lads are signed back any bad feeling about not getting offered deals sooner will be forgotten im sure.
Who decides who we should be looking to keep from the present squad? Kerley? Who decides what players we should be looking to bring in? Kerley or the board?
That's where it gets messy. None of Kerley, Barratt or Taylor know the players that well. If it goes to the board to decide then its really the same.
And with the way they were treated in the off season (RE: lack of communication) , then inviting them all to pre season won't work either because unless they have a contract, they won't risk picking up an injury.
If Kerley picks, you will see Yellow Lyons, Wayne Colbert and Jason Hughes back in...maybe even Robbie Kelliher will get a shout
(Edit: not having a go at Kerley incase Sea Bird has another meltdown)
That's where it gets messy. None of Kerley, Barratt or Taylor know the players that well. If it goes to the board to decide then its really the same.
And with the way they were treated in the off season (RE: lack of communication) , then inviting them all to pre season won't work either because unless they have a contract, they won't risk picking up an injury.
If Kerley picks, you will see Yellow Lyons, Wayne Colbert and Jason Hughes back in...maybe even Robbie Kelliher will get a shout
(Edit: not having a go at Kerley incase Sea Bird has another meltdown)
From talking to both you are wrong about Kerley and Barrett. Both have a very good knowledge of the players in LOI prem. Was only just after last season ended me and a few lads were at an underage match talking to Tommy and he does know his stuff. The club have a few people they can call on to get opinions too. Kieran Judge is another that knows an awful lot about the players in both leagues having talked to him about it loads of times.
When the manager is in and deals start being offered i dont think the lack of communication previously will matter a few lads that i have talked to that were fuming a bout it are now more then happy to sit down and talk with the club now that its all sorted. There will be a few announced at the same time or very close after the manager im sure.
Interview with John Sullivan in the sun talking about Stuart Taylor. He is full of praise for him anyway. Sullivan signing with Dundalk also.
He was a young fella when he was with us so I presume he was in his early teens when he was with Hamilton. A big difference dealing with youngsters and the likes of Gamble
its ok kingpin anyone that sits back and reads your posts will realise you havnt a clue..
He says in the article that he helped bring through a lot of young players with Hamilton. One of which was James McCarthy. He said he also took pretty much every training session with the senior team and brought youth players into the first team setup so if he has dealt with the first team then he has dealt with senior players before. It is also mentioned that in the training Taylor always got them to keep the ball down and play it out so he should bring a nice style of football to Limerick.
I've yet to hear a bad word about Taylor really.
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Anyway, I agree, if deals get sorted soon, everything that happened in the off season will be forgotten about.
I'd say there'll be 4 or 5 loans in from England, but do the club lose them then in June? Surely no English club would risk making them play through the summer then back to their own league without burning them out. Can't help but feel that moving to Limerick isn't going to be that big of an attraction for players over there either.
Whether O'Leary was training with another club or not, I have a big fear of losing him.
Last edited by kingpin4; 08/01/2013 at 12:04 AM.
From searching around the Internet I see Taylor was really liked at Hamilton and by any players he has worked with. He left Hamilton to the disgust of a lot of fans but returned ten 10 days later as assistant coach and the fans seemed to be delighted to see him back and it made them more optimistic of strong finish to the SPL season. He was released though along with half the playing staff for cost cutting measures when Hamilton were relegated.
This loan idea keeps getting floated - but there is very little history of loans from the UK, and for very good reason. Our rules demand that a loan deal must run (as a minimum) to the July window. It's far more attractive for a UK club to loan the player to a lower league club in the UK where shorter loan periods and short-notice recalls are possible. It gets even more unattractive for loans in the later part of the season as the player can't play competitively again in the UK till Jan.
I'd say there'll be 4 or 5 loans in from England, but do the club lose them then in June? Surely no English club would risk making them play through the summer then back to their own league without burning them out. Can't help but feel that moving to Limerick isn't going to be that big of an attraction for players over there either.
There are many other reasons why it is unattractive to the UK club such as queries about training regime, medical / physio facilities, not to mention the logistical hassles attached to tracking the players progress.
That was what I was hinting towards in my post. If a UK player came here, you lose him in the middle of a season. And for what people say that it'd be more competitive for them to play regularly over here than in the reserves, I agree... But League of Ireland is probably around League Two standard in England, so an English team would surely rather to send one of their players to any of the leagues where you're gauranteed better facilities and the likes?
I think there would be something very dodgy looking to the rest of the league if Limerick announced 5 loan signings from England.
[QUOTE=kingpin4;1653623]That was what I was hinting towards in my post.
Why would you be hinting towards anything in any post???Just come out and say what you have to say man
and stop being so childish!!!
You've said this a few times now, and it still bemuses me.
First Division is probably lower League Two/Conference standard, but the Premier Division is of a much, much higher standard as is evident when teams who don't significantly higher the standard of their players tend to struggle to survive in the Premier.
Top half of the Premier Division is easily top of League One standard if not lower Championship standard. I understand Limerick have been gone from it for a long time, but don't underestimate how big the gulf is.
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Lads, none of you know anything about the new manager. Who are you trying to kid?
We'll find out soon enough
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Why would you be hinting towards anything in any post???Just come out and say what you have to say man
and stop being so childish!!!I think the real question is, why would that wind you up so much?
No I havent, I'm pretty sure that's my first time ever saying it.
First division is the equivalent of non-league/ conference football over there. Go see a game and you will understand, bigger attendances than the majority of First Div teams, better stadiums than most and similar wages.
The premier division is miles away from League One or lower championship standard. I know everyone likes to talk up their own league, but like you said, don't underestimate how big the gulf is.
Gillingham or Port Vale would do a lot better in LOI than putting any of the Irish teams over to their league.
maybe, if you had your pick from the best players, best facilities and best manager/staff in the leagues, you could make a decent league two side, or lower league one side.
lads there is a lot of Bickering going on , whoever it is hopefully they will play better football to suit our better players like gamble and Bradley etc and have the lads Fitter than last years group , Looking forward to seeing Limerick in Thomond against the likes of cork and sligo , beats watching Salthill Wex and Athlone etc
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