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    It would certainly be a bit of positive publicity for the league if such a well-respected figure got the job, even if he has little experience.

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    According to Kilbane on twitter he is waiting to decide on his future. Don't know is he just trying to be really secretive or still unsure whether he takes the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    It would certainly be a bit of positive publicity for the league if such a well-respected figure got the job, even if he has little experience.
    He would certainly raise the profile of the club and get a lot of publicity for us, that coupled with Kerley's knowledge of the league and local players it could be a great coaching ticket.

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    Do you think there are a lot of local players who could cut it at PD level? Off-hand I can't think of many at other clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Do you think there are a lot of local players who could cut it at PD level? Off-hand I can't think of many at other clubs.
    At most there are 3 or 4. It's hard to know since we have been out of the premier for so long and none of the local lads have had a chance to test themselves. There are plenty of lads around though that If given the chance could step up. I'd say the club will mainly look at our under19's. The club also seem to be regularly looking for players in Tipperary, Clare and some from Cork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    At most there are 3 or 4. It's hard to know since we have been out of the premier for so long and none of the local lads have had a chance to test themselves. There are plenty of lads around though that If given the chance could step up. I'd say the club will mainly look at our under19's. The club also seem to be regularly looking for players in Tipperary, Clare and some from Cork.
    Bar Tony Whitehead, none of the 19s are currently good enough to even be part of the squad. I think a manager coming in from England would rather take in a few on loan from the UK rather than take up some lads who aren't ready yet.

    I also don't get the love in for Kerley...I'd nearly prefer Dom Foley to come in as assistant than Kerley: his record isn't great like, got Waterford relegated, quit limerick twice and sacked by Athlone. Also, the game against Limerick last season in Jackman park always sticks out to me. Drawing the game with a few mins left and he switches formation to try win and loses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin4 View Post
    Bar Tony Whitehead, none of the 19s are currently good enough to even be part of the squad. I think a manager coming in from England would rather take in a few on loan from the UK rather than take up some lads who aren't ready yet.

    I also don't get the love in for Kerley...I'd nearly prefer Dom Foley to come in as assistant than Kerley: his record isn't great like, got Waterford relegated, quit limerick twice and sacked by Athlone. Also, the game against Limerick last season in Jackman park always sticks out to me. Drawing the game with a few mins left and he switches formation to try win and loses.
    Ya he hasn't been successful as a manager but I still think he could do a good job as assistant.

    Agree most aren't up to it yet but sometimes lads just need a chance to step up.

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    dom doesnt have a badge to his name and how you can single out tony whitehead from the 19,s baffles me the likes of darrah rainsford and new addition val feeney for me could step up given a chance.. also when kerley went to waterford they wer already in big trouble as for athlone sacking him the results after he departed summed that one up and he had a bunch of kids play more football than our bunch of highly paid management team and players...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Bird View Post
    dom doesnt have a badge to his name and how you can single out tony whitehead from the 19,s baffles me the likes of darrah rainsford and new addition val feeney for me could step up given a chance.. also when kerley went to waterford they wer already in big trouble as for athlone sacking him the results after he departed summed that one up and he had a bunch of kids play more football than our bunch of highly paid management team and players...
    Dom's doing his UEFA B badge currently as far as I know.
    As for picking out Tony Whitehead, you should go watch the 19s. Tony could be a decent squad member, but that's it at the moment. Time is on their side as I said in my previous post "CURRENTLY not good enough"
    And "highly paid management team and players"? I didn't realise you saw the payslips. People vastly overestimate the money some people at the club are on. The only reason some of them have joined is because their wages are guaranteed, not because they are earning thousands a week.

    My biggest problem with him from an outside opinion (i dont know him, could be the nicest bloke in the world) would be that line "good coach, poor man manager" that people who have worked with him throw out. Can't really afford to be in premier and have any aggro behind the scenes. Plus, it's not a great look for the club after all the big talk of Phil Brown and that, to then bring back a manager who's walked away twice... It doesn't seem like a step forward to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Bird View Post
    dom doesnt have a badge to his name and how you can single out tony whitehead from the 19,s baffles me the likes of darrah rainsford and new addition val feeney for me could step up given a chance.. also when kerley went to waterford they wer already in big trouble as for athlone sacking him the results after he departed summed that one up and he had a bunch of kids play more football than our bunch of highly paid management team and players...

    And came 3rd last so not that much use was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin4 View Post
    Dom's doing his UEFA B badge currently as far as I know.
    As for picking out Tony Whitehead, you should go watch the 19s. Tony could be a decent squad member, but that's it at the moment. Time is on their side as I said in my previous post "CURRENTLY not good enough"
    And "highly paid management team and players"? I didn't realise you saw the payslips. People vastly overestimate the money some people at the club are on. The only reason some of them have joined is because their wages are guaranteed, not because they are earning thousands a week.

    My biggest problem with him from an outside opinion (i dont know him, could be the nicest bloke in the world) would be that line "good coach, poor man manager" that people who have worked with him throw out. Can't really afford to be in premier and have any aggro behind the scenes. Plus, it's not a great look for the club after all the big talk of Phil Brown and that, to then bring back a manager who's walked away twice... It doesn't seem like a step forward to me.
    I dont think when people say that they mean he is the kind to cause trouble. I know Mike and he is a nice fella but a bit kinda starnge is the best way to describe it not great at communicating very very quiet man which isnt great for a manger. Im sure someone else that knows him will describe what i mean better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    I dont think when people say that they mean he is the kind to cause trouble. I know Mike and he is a nice fella but a bit kinda starnge is the best way to describe it not great at communicating very very quiet man which isnt great for a manger. Im sure someone else that knows him will describe what i mean better.
    I kind of worded that poorly to be fair, I don't mean he'll deliberately cause trouble, but at that the level of professionalism that Gamble, Bradley et.al would expect, surely a bit of aggro will happen if he can't communicate with them.
    And if he is an assistant, you'd imagine then the possibility that if he can't act as a link between the squad and the manager then there could be problems. Maybe I'm just being too negative and seeing problems there, but I'd hate for the team to go up and just struggle along for the year or for it to all fall apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin4 View Post
    I kind of worded that poorly to be fair, I don't mean he'll deliberately cause trouble, but at that the level of professionalism that Gamble, Bradley et.al would expect, surely a bit of aggro will happen if he can't communicate with them.
    And if he is an assistant, you'd imagine then the possibility that if he can't act as a link between the squad and the manager then there could be problems. Maybe I'm just being too negative and seeing problems there, but I'd hate for the team to go up and just struggle along for the year or for it to all fall apart.

    Na dont think you are being too negative at all valid point in fairness. Id just hope that if he was assistant that whoever was manger was the talking type that players could go to. Id hope that Mike just turned up did his training and that was it cos that is all he is suited to imo. Perfect scenario for me would be Manger, someone like Tommy Barrett as assistant and Kerley as a coach. I think they need Kerley as assistant over having the badges though.

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    don't know any of the details of how Kerley's previous stints ended but I always thought we played good football under him, which would be a nice change. I don't put much stock in his waterford or athlone stints either, he really had nothing to play with there. I'd be happy to see him back. We went on a great run of results for the second half of the season a few years back, just before Scully. I think that was under Kerley too before he walked away. Was a huge blow as I had big hopes for that season. Didn't make sense at the time so I assume there must have been a strong reason.

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    Limerick 19s are playing carew park today if people want to see a few of those names talked about carew will be without the lads playing Oscar trainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post
    Limerick 19s are playing carew park today if people want to see a few of those names talked about carew will be without the lads playing Oscar trainer.
    How did the match go. Would love to have gone out for a look but it was on the same time as the Munster game.

    edit: its ok i saw it, they lost 6-0.
    Last edited by Jofspring; 29/12/2012 at 7:52 PM.

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    It was definitely Tommy and Mike anyway that were seen but its not as manager and assistant unfortunately what it is for would suggest we wont have a manger anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    It was definitely Tommy and Mike anyway that were seen but its not as manager and assistant unfortunately what it is for would suggest we wont have a manger anytime soon.
    What was it for? The academy? Or are they trying to get some training going? If its the latter, it was just the 2 of them there. Unless players were still in dressing room or something? Any idea? I only drove past quickly but didnt see anyone else there...

    Also, no update on manager? What about the story that the contract was signed before Christmas and they were waiting to announce?! The longer it goes on, the less enthusiastic I am about the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingpin4 View Post
    What was it for? The academy? Or are they trying to get some training going? If its the latter, it was just the 2 of them there. Unless players were still in dressing room or something? Any idea? I only drove past quickly but didnt see anyone else there...

    Also, no update on manager? What about the story that the contract was signed before Christmas and they were waiting to announce?! The longer it goes on, the less enthusiastic I am about the season.

    First i heard the other day from someone that wouldn't talk bull that he had it from a good source that the manager was in place already. I was told tonight though that Mike and Tommy have been asked will they take pre-season until the club can get a manager, bit of a joke imo if we dont have a manger before pre season starts. Id guess that it was just the 2 of them there doing a bit of planning or something. But they have 100% been asked to take pre sesaon til the club can find a manger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    bit of a joke imo if we dont have a manger before pre season starts
    Where will we put the little baby jesus?! :-P

    Nah, i kinda hope we never get a manager, this thread has become fantastic.

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