Originally Posted by
Irwin3
So the concensus appears to be that it's a statute black hole where minors who acquire a new nationality are given some kind of leeway. Seems strange to me as what's to stop the likes of Qatar targeting under 18 prospects and giving them passports?
Good point.
Are we sure that his parents are naturalised citizens in the first place? Not sure when Noe or his family arrived in Ireland. Doesn't the whole process require at least 5 years continuous legal residency plus a year or two on top of that to process? Then once they received it, the processing would presumably start for the child?
Have a feeling he's lived in Castlebar since he was a toddler, for some reason, but open to correction on that...
Originally Posted by
geysir
If he was a Cameroon citizen, as is very likely (jus soli or jus sanguis), he loses that when taking up a new nationality.
If events did transpire that such a player wanted to play for Cameroon, he would have to (re)apply for Cameroonian citizenship.
Indeed, you're correct. Assuming Baba is indeed an Irish citizen, he isn't a citizen of Cameroon at present, if ever he was, as Cameroon does not permit the possession of dual citizenship. Would the fact he possesses just Irish citizenship have any bearing on his eligibility? For example, article 8(2) states:
"If a Player who has been fielded by his Association in an international match in accordance with art. 5 par. 2 permanently loses the nationality of that country without his consent or against his will due to a decision by a government authority, he may request permission to play for another Association whose nationality he already has or has acquired."
That is in relation to players switching association, however.
Originally Posted by
Dodge
He's not the first. The Nigerian born lad (who later played for Bray) was stopped playing for the u19s before his citizenship was one of the first (apologies for forgetting his name
Ismahil Akinade? Didn't Bray have another Nigerian-born player in their squad recently who I'm pretty sure also played for us at under-age level?
Originally Posted by
BonnieShels
Player X is not entitled to Irish Citizenhip by virtue of residency, he is entitled to it by virtue of having an Irish Citizen parent. In that case he doesn't fall foul of the FIFA statute and can play for Ireland.
That his parent is granted citizenship by virtue of residency is irrelevant.
So, Baba is eligible to play for us but his father wouldn't be, assuming his father was granted Irish citizenship by virtue of residence, for the sake of argument?
Originally Posted by
The Fly
It's obvious how his nationality harmonises with FIFA's eligibility criteria, through Article 15 (1).
That's now article 5(1). Fly, you fell short, yet again.
Originally Posted by
Irwin3
I'm pretty sure that to claim citizenship through descent the parent has to be a citizen at the time of the child's birth.
Pretty sure that's correct: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en...r_descent.html
If either of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, then you are automatically an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth.
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If your parent derived Irish citizenship in another manner, for example, through marriage, adoption or naturalisation, further information can be obtained from your nearest Irish embassy or consulate.
That implies Irish citizenship is not automatically inherited from parents who are naturalised Irish citizens; it is dependent on some other criteria, in other words. Residence possibly? Anyone got the number for the feckin' embassy in London?!
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