
Originally Posted by
littleman
One for in your opinion what is the reason that we are not getting more teams, sorry any teams to at least the semis of the Fai, who or what do you blame an if you dont mind can we keep this grown up, no lol's or i love every club.Our standing on this superb website is low enough with out any serious debate turning into a slagging match.
And before anyone blames the MSL let us all for one minute remember the junior teams in the Aul from the past 20 years or so and im on about proper top sides who have won Aul premier ,Munster Junior Cup, Aohs, Mossies, had represntitive players on not just the Oscar Traynor but capped at International level an not sides who consider themselves top sides, proven sides.
Temple United or Castleview, iconic sides, Greenmount at there best quite possibly the most talented squad of players I have ever seen,Kinsale, Passage,Rockville in there prime, Hibs,Coachford , Grattan or Wilton and Leeside at there strongest. They were not sides who at there pinicle lost players to the MSL, i played an watched them all growing up an there individual squads all contained the best players in Cork , all had a bite at the cherry an it didnt work for them an evidently it transpired that a ref or a pitch was to blame, very few have held there hands up an said they wernt good enough.
I think personally that the heart an soul of football in Cork has an always will be in the Aul, its where clubs an dreams can start, the Msl is a level above wether people admit it or not, because there has to be somewhere better for lads or clubs to go if they want to train or play in a better way or on a better surface every week as oppose to a few times a season.
I spent the majority of my footballing career in the Aul an I love it an when there i looked at the Msl as football snobs but i was wrong.
Dont hate the Msl because the clubs in it wanted to improve or they wont tolerate togging off on the side of the road an play on a cow field, no disrespect to any cows that are reading.
Yes the standard amoungst the very few top Aul sides is very high, Id readily admit seeing iv played an managed on both sides that the very best in the Aul would give it a lash senior ,an proper senior at that because the Senior 1st is mainly clubs aspiring to greatness an busting a gut to get up to the Senior Premier or sides recently relegated who want to bounce back but the Senior 2 nd is bar one or 2 fairly poor even by MSL stantards, an thats meant in a footballing sense only, facilities an attitudes are very high as is expected of clubs who are hungry to improve.
But the of level of overall talent is on the MSL side, an i mean that in the context of overall squad strenght, they in an overall sense have players of a higher caliber, football seems to be what they have been brought up on, they train better, there training facilities generally are better an the people who control these generally have a higher understanding an knowledge of the game because they have decided they want to push themselves above what they have experienced in there own playing days, be it Aul , Msl or what ever.
The Aul is true grit, players just get on with it, irrelavant of conditions, its football in its purest form an individually there are superbly talented groups of players in the Aul, but it rarely stretches beyond 8 or 9 lads, when it dose we do well in the FAI or MJC as they say or we on the rare occasion get a international call up, an rarer still win the Oscar Traynor.
The AUl an MSL for the time being are necessery, id love nothing better if they joined forces but too much water has gone under that bridge i fear, dont hate either, more just appriciate the talent thats within an admit neither wants to be in the shadows of the other.
Avondale, an i credit there manager totally in this context have managed to comprise the greatest overall squad of players that the MSL or AUL has seen in many a year. No Cork club will do them in any normal game, hell no Irish amature side will do them,,,,,,
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