What did Frei say to Clinton?

**Lionel Ritchie** · 08/09/2004, 9:48 AM

Originally Posted by Feech

what a loser - how can you make a remark that is "like a racist remark"??

It either is or it isn't.

and it hurt him so much he only mentions it - not what it is mind - 11 months later knowing he won't be facing the player in question.

shut up Clinton you gimp.

I think this was explained before I'll try puncuating what he may have said in his LANDUN drawl ..."it was, like, a racist remark" or "it was ....like ...a racist remark" in much the same way that we Limerick folk or our Corkonian neighbours might call Clinton "an awful muppet who owes us a couple o'goals like"

I wonder if Clinton and roy get on well. They both like bad* rappers, they both have their little bad* rapper catchphrases and intonations. Maybe they should make a record...

*Poor quality as opposed to Bad Ass

**drinkfeckarse** · 08/09/2004, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by razor

Maybe he called him "Irish".

: D

**eirebhoy** · 08/09/2004, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Let's look at it this way, Morrisson never mentioned the alleged comment after the match itself. Eleven months have gone by before Morrisson suddenly "remembers" the awful comment by Frei.

Who said it was awful? He could have called him anything that Clinton felt didn't deserve punishment by FIFA/UEFA. The reason he brought it up now is because we're playing the Swiss and he said he wanted to celebrate in Frei's face if he scored.

If I was in college in Africa and I someone said something about my skin, I wouldn't go and tell the dean. I'd like to get my revenge in another way.

**razor** · 08/09/2004, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

I'd like to get my revenge in another way.

Of course, but would you tell the whole world about it in advance.

**eirebhoy** · 08/09/2004, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by razor

Of course, but would you tell the whole world about it in advance.

He's not going to go up and purposely injur him. All he wants to do is celebrate in his face as he said himself. Nothing wrong with telling that to the public.

**Junior** · 08/09/2004, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by eirebhoy

He's not going to go up and purposely injur him. All he wants to do is celebrate in his face as he said himself. Nothing wrong with telling that to the public.

These things inevitably backfire. Let him score first, then he can do all the celebrating in his face that he wants. His plan will probably fall at the first hurdle me thinks!!

**blobbyblob** · 08/09/2004, 2:07 PM

Originally Posted by Conor74

I think Clinton Morrison is fluent in a variety of languages though. Mr Frei picked the wrong guy...

Pity about his english

**koneinc** · 08/09/2004, 2:14 PM

Originally Posted by blobbyblob

Pity about his english

Meooow! Saucer of cream for Table 2?

**speedking** · 08/09/2004, 2:22 PM

Maybe he thought he was Frei from Futurama and he called Morrison "Bender".

Ok that wasn't funny.

**Fergie's Son** · 08/09/2004, 2:25 PM

Nothing wrong with getting pumped up for the game but to make up something like this is just wrong. Morrisson should apologize as he has tarred Frei without a shred of proof. More than a little dangerous when everyone is willing to accept one side's story of a racist comment. Indicative of PC-ism (or neo-marxist thought control) gone out of hand.

**eirebhoy** · 08/09/2004, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

More than a little dangerous when everyone is willing to accept one side's story of a racist comment.

I haven't heard many people calling Frei a racist but we can't just dismiss the claims and call Clinton a liar. We don't know what happened so can only speculate. You are not speculating as you are plain and simply saying Frei didn't say anything to Morrison.

**blobbyblob** · 08/09/2004, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

More than a little dangerous when everyone is willing to accept one side's story .

Theres not many willing to accept Clint so I dunno what your on about. He obviously had something to say so he said it. I doubt if he went home and thought "what will I say about like that geeza Frie - ye, its like, ya know, he said i is black and i is not takin tha from no Toblerone head"

**Slash/ED** · 08/09/2004, 2:57 PM

Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Nothing wrong with getting pumped up for the game but to make up something like this is just wrong. Morrisson should apologize as he has tarred Frei without a shred of proof. More than a little dangerous when everyone is willing to accept one side's story of a racist comment. Indicative of PC-ism (or neo-marxist thought control) gone out of hand.

It's funny how you say Frei is "innocent until proven guilty" then call Morrison a liar when you're "without a shred of proof" that he's not telling the truth.

**Fergie's Son** · 08/09/2004, 3:37 PM

I'm more likely to believe Frei and disbelieve Morrisson based on the preponderance of the evidence to date. People have jumped all over Frei without considering the possibility that Morrisson is full of it. Let's look at the facts shall we.

1. Morrisson does not mention the alleged statement for 11 months. One would think that he would mention it after the game or at least within a week or so of the game.

2. Morrisson will not repeat the specifics of the alleged statement which allows one to cast apersions at to its veracity. I think we are all big enough to hear at least a paraphrased version of what Frei allegedly said.

3. Some comments on this very board:

thejollyrodger
Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 84

Everyone should boo Frei when he comes to landsdowne...scum bag

koneinc
New Signing Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 14

There is NO excuse for racism, ever!

Bowsy
Reserves Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: London
Posts: 384

Also, what a charming young man Frei is - spitter, liar, racist. His mother most be so proud.

dynamo kerry
Youth Team Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 127

Frei has already shown his temperment isn't what it should be. (Excessivly inappropriate celebrations last year - spitting at people at the world cup, lying about it)

A number of posters have jumped all over Frei without any real proof. Put another way, Morrisson's claim couldn't stand up in a court of law and, quite frankly, I am surprised that Frei doesn't sue him for slander. Without further proof, I think Morrisson's comment was inappropriate.

**speedking** · 08/09/2004, 3:45 PM

Only Bowsy out of that list linked the word racist directly with Frei. koneinc only said there was no excuse for racism. And jollyrodger said that he was a scumbag, which he is.

**Volltreffer** · 08/09/2004, 3:47 PM

Originally Posted by speedking

And jollyrodger said that he was a scumbag, which he is.

So you know him in person ...

**blobbyblob** · 08/09/2004, 3:55 PM

Originally Posted by Volltreffer

So you know him in person ...

Spitting at an opponent - Thats enough for me

Guilty of Scumness. Surely we dont need to personally know someone to be allowed to brand them appropriately from their actions.

Similarly- We cant call Clint a liar because Deep Fat Frier says he knows coloured people at his club and hes never burnt them out of their houses.

Similarly, we cant call Crisp'n'Dry a racist because we'll never know the truth of what was said. Thats between Clint and himself. Not that we would have known even if Clint came out and said it 11 months ago. As far as Im aware, players dont carry microphones.

But we do have enough evidence for scumdom. Scum is as scum does. Caught on camera. Guilty. You, sir, are scum.

**Bowsy** · 08/09/2004, 3:59 PM

Fair enough. Racist is a very severe tag to dish out without any evidence, especially in this day and age. I apologise for that. I will not temper my view of Frei though. Anybody who spits at someone is a disgusting human being in my opinion. It's a vile and incredibly insulting act.