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**Nesta99** · 07/11/2012, 10:21 PM

I believe that he will get what he is looking for and a lot more than what shams would offer, if it needs to go before a judge it would benefit kenny. Performance is a non runner as the club did themselves no favours by not taking action on the player rebels preventing kenny from performing...no judge would back the employer here, as was mentioned 2 other have been given kennys duties while he is on 'shore leave'. im sure he would have more to add. He was being squeezed out probably hoping he would walk. A winner for all is if or when he gets a job at say Dundalk and they offer 50%of what he was getting then shams would pay the balance of 50%. Dundalk get their man at a reduced rate, kenny gets the same amout of money as if he had stayed at shams and shams get a settlement by default

**Charlie Darwin** · 07/11/2012, 10:34 PM

What's he looking for though?

no judge would back the employer here

Of course, the employee has all the rights here, which is how it should be.

He was being squeezed out probably hoping he would walk.

I can't agree with this though - any fool could see Kenny was never going to walk. He was the wrong man for the job but he's an honourable man and believed he could do a good job. He's probably just a bit weak as a person. The club weren't trying to get him to walk, they just didn't know what to do and (correctly) judged that the players taking control was better than Kenny.

A winner for all is if or when he gets a job at say Dundalk and they offer 50%of what he was getting then shams would pay the balance of 50%. Dundalk get their man at a reduced rate, kenny gets the same amout of money as if he had stayed at shams and shams get a settlement by default

I'm really not sure Rovers would be a winner in that situation. Still, you hire a manager on a ridiculous contract, you take the risk of losing big.

**sundance kid** · 08/11/2012, 8:58 AM

Kenny hasn't asked for the full amount of the balance of his contract, or anything near it. My understanding is that he'll settle for about half of the balance of his contract.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2012, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

any fool could see Kenny was never going to walk.

I wouldn't be dismissing the idea of fools being on the rovers board BTW. Nopt given we're dscussing Stephen Kenny's 3 year contract...

**BonnieShels** · 08/11/2012, 1:56 PM

Quigley and Rogers to Shams... Anyone else hearing that?

Madness if true.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2012, 2:11 PM

EVERYONE else is hearing it.

Don't see what's so mad though?

**BonnieShels** · 08/11/2012, 2:19 PM

Cos i would like to see Sligo keep them and have them for Europe next year.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2012, 2:26 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Cos i would like to see Sligo keep them and have them for Europe next year.

What you would like doesn't really define whats mad though, surely?

Players move for money. Thats about it

**BonnieShels** · 08/11/2012, 2:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

What you would like doesn't really define whats mad though, surely?

Players move for money. Thats about it

I think it's mad. It's madness in my opinion. Therefore I believe it's mad if it's true. Nothing more to it.

I really don't know why you persist in being obtuse about the inconsequentials sometimes.

Damn straight players move for better money and more power to them.

**Martinho II** · 08/11/2012, 2:59 PM

Chris Deans and Paul Hunt confirmed via their twitter accounts that they are staying for next season with us!

**Dodge** · 08/11/2012, 3:07 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

I really don't know why you persist in being obtuse about the inconsequentials sometimes.

So don't answer then. Its the internet, I'm just asking questions.

**BonnieShels** · 08/11/2012, 3:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

EVERYONE else is hearing it.

Don't see what's so mad though?

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Cos i would like to see Sligo keep them and have them for Europe next year.

Originally Posted by Dodge

What you would like doesn't really define whats mad though, surely?

Players move for money. Thats about it

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

I think it's mad. It's madness in my opinion. Therefore I believe it's mad if it's true. Nothing more to it.

I really don't know why you persist in being obtuse about the inconsequentials sometimes.

Damn straight players move for better money and more power to them.

Originally Posted by Dodge

So don't answer then. Its the internet, I'm just asking questions.

I did answer.

What was the other information you required? I seemed to have missed the other question.

**SkStu** · 08/11/2012, 3:38 PM

mad b@stards.

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/11/2012, 3:51 PM

Bonnieshels demonstrating the multi-quote feature to devastating effect.

**nigel-harps1954** · 08/11/2012, 4:06 PM

I would tend to agree, it would be fairly mad of them to move to Shams now.

Sligo Rovers - champions league football, league winners, big crowds, greater chance of exposure to the English leagues.

What have Shamrock Rovers got to persuade them? An extra 50 quid a week? Surely they can't afford to be paying much higher wages than Sligo?

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/11/2012, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

I would tend to agree, it would be fairly mad of them to move to Shams now.

Sligo Rovers - champions league football, league winners, big crowds, greater chance of exposure to the English leagues.

What have Shamrock Rovers got to persuade them? An extra 50 quid a week? Surely they can't afford to be paying much higher wages than Sligo?

Dublin. Doesn't Quigley still live in Dublin?

**adamd164** · 08/11/2012, 4:43 PM

The auld fella was telling me during the week he saw an interview with Baraclough who said that he isn't overly concerned if players decide to jump ship within the LOI, he reckoned there's a large enough pool of quality that he has the links to get in the UK and players who'd jump at the chance of CL football.

**Dodge** · 08/11/2012, 4:47 PM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

I did answer.

What was the other information you required? I seemed to have missed the other question.

I asked 2 questions and you answered. I didn't say differently. I was suggesting that if the questions annoyed you, you should probably ignore them. I won't mind (hence the the 'only the internet' line)

Anyway...

Players don't really care about Europe. Not at our level. They like the odd big game but no one is delighted to play in Iceland, Lithuania etc.

So it boils down can we win, will I paid more, and will I live closer to home?

Down to the player in what order he has them but generally all good players in the league have those parameters (if they can choose their club. Some just happy to have any deal)