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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    that new party thats forming at the moment -the one the plumber set up!
    Cisterns of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains...

    Coat, get, etc
    Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
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    You're wavin a laugh EG!

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    Almost 10,000 goms voted for the FF candidate in Meath East, scarily over 1,000 more traitors voted for a shill. Ireland truly is a Fyffes republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTE
    FF and FG level in RED C poll
    A new opinion poll for tomorrow's Sunday Business Post shows support for Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil level.
    It is the first time in five years that Fine Gael has not been ahead in a Red C poll.
    Red C conducted this poll among over 1,000 voters on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday of last week.
    It shows support for Fine Gael down two points to 26%, while Labour is unchanged at 11%.
    Fianna Fáil gains one point to 26%, while Sinn Féin is unchanged at 16%. Independents and ‘Others’ are up one point to 21%.
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0525/452...support-level/


    What the hell?

    They've done absolutely nothing to warrant 1% support in the 2 years since the GE. A frankly frightening result and a prime example why I'm emigrating even though I don't have to.
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    I would maintain it has nothing to do with FF, and more to do with a lack of other options for those who have come to despise the government parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I would maintain it has nothing to do with FF, and more to do with a lack of other options for those who have come to despise the government parties.
    It has everything to do with FF. They should be so so toxic that for anyone to say that they would vote for them should be akin to someone saying they are gonna vote for the Nazi-KKK-Al Qaeda-Mao-Pol Pot party.

    They shouldn't even cross any sane person's mind as an option; as an idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I would maintain it has nothing to do with FF, and more to do with a lack of other options for those who have come to despise the government parties.
    Now where have I heard that before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    They've done absolutely nothing to warrant 1% support in the 2 years since the GE.
    FF or FG?

    I think it's all moot anyway while the IMF are in charge. And while I'm sure FF would love to start ramping up house prices again and calling this a good thing, it flies in the face of rational economics, so ain't going to happen.

    But depressing that FF are still viable at this stage alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post

    But depressing that FF are still viable at this stage alright.
    I care not that FG haven't done everything as they said they would but dear lord there's no call for FF to have any support at all.
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    I would genuinely sooner vote Monster Raving Loony than Fianna Fáil. I am honestly just flabbergasted that anyone would even consider voting for them. Grr! Sometimes I'm glad I no longer have to share an island with the sort of people who make statistics like this happen (although over here we've UKIP and the Tories. If Boris Johnson ever becomes Prime Minister, I'm going full V for Vendetta on Westminster!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    I would maintain it has nothing to do with FF, and more to do with a lack of other options for those who have come to despise the government parties.
    There are lots of options. You mean that people are unwilling to vote for a party that doesn't have a realistic chance of forming a government. Because Irish people generally only vote for people who can do something for them and don't really understand the concept of voting on principle.

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    Interesting point made by Jim Glennon today - for all the FF are back stuff, traditionally FF and FG between them would have 75-80% of the vote. They're now down to barely 50%.

    A significant proportion will always forgive FF. The number of times I've heard people giving out about Government decisions on cuts and taxes and followed by "sure this lot are always the same" - it's always been proceeded by FF fecking up the economy, FG and Labour cleaning up the mess, and then FF sweeping back to power as they're the ones to be trusted with the economy. It's a blind spot the irish electorate have, but each time a few more are knocked off for ever (hence the trend to drop support)

    It is turning out to be a massive mistake for Labour to go in with FG. The citizens are better off, but yet short term National Interest has scuppered a chance to change the political landscape. FG with independents would've been an unstable coalition, and Labour would've been Leaders of the Opposition, starving FF of oxygen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    There are lots of options. You mean that people are unwilling to vote for a party that doesn't have a realistic chance of forming a government. Because Irish people generally only vote for people who can do something for them and don't really understand the concept of voting on principle.
    And they want to vote for the winner, like they like to support a winner in sport.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post

    A significant proportion will always forgive FF. The number of times I've heard people giving out about Government decisions on cuts and taxes and followed by "sure this lot are always the same" - it's always been proceeded by FF fecking up the economy, FG and Labour cleaning up the mess, and then FF sweeping back to power as they're the ones to be trusted with the economy. It's a blind spot the irish electorate have, but each time a few more are knocked off for ever (hence the trend to drop support)

    It is turning out to be a massive mistake for Labour to go in with FG. The citizens are better off, but yet short term National Interest has scuppered a chance to change the political landscape. FG with independents would've been an unstable coalition, and Labour would've been Leaders of the Opposition, starving FF of oxygen.

    Is there anybody still left in Ireland?

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    I Actually feel Sick. Came in here to post it.

    I'll probably be still away when the next GE. If they're in power when I get back I'll be leading a coup.
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    You know something, I can genuinely see why people violently overthrow democratically elected governments. The rage I felt when sitting at my computer screen was pretty bad. I can only imagine what I would have done had I been in some sort of mob of like-minded people. Why are Irish people seemingly so fixed on self-destruction?!

    Then again, the longer I've been interested in politics, the more I've lost respect for the average voter. Is there some way we can introduce a test so the sort of people who vote Boris Johnson into positions of power because they think he's funny are permanently removed from the electoral register?!

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    I got the "sure they're all the same" comment. I nearly launched one.

    I'll be just finished my Canadian visa in April 2016. I assume barring catastrophe that that'll be when the GE will be.

    I will go all falling down on this country's ass if what I think will happen, happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonnieShels View Post
    I got the "sure they're all the same" comment. I nearly launched one.
    Bizarre logic. They're all the same, therefore I'll vote for one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Bizarre logic. They're all the same, therefore I'll vote for one of them.
    Not even that; "They're all the same, therefore I'll vote for the one of them that ****ed up the country, instead of one of the identical ones that hasn't yet."

    Almost as bad as "my dad was a Fianna Fáil man". Oh really, well your dad also rode your mum, and I doubt you'd catch you doing that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peadar1987 View Post
    Almost as bad as "my dad was a Fianna Fáil man". Oh really, well your dad also rode your mum, and I doubt you'd catch you doing that!
    Read your first sentence again. And then ask yourself if you're still as sure about the second

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