I'm very happy. The problem is not with our manager, the problem is that our players aren't very good.
Agree completely.Originally Posted by Colbert Report
so why pay e1.2million to coach not very good players? FFS.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Our players are not that bad, that is just an excuse used by Trapattoni apologists. Greatly disappointed but not surprised with the FAI.
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"We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo
He's on borrowed time. They clearly wanted him gone after Germany but he did enough by beating Faroes away to earn a stay of execution. Cant wait til he's gone. Waste of space.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Five months to save his position. Needs 4 points from Sweden/Austria.
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Same reason Chinese, Saudi, American etc clubs pay so much for their managers despite the poor standard of their player. It's a dead end job with teams who'll never cut it at the big time making for a CV that can't possibly ever look overly impressive for whoever takes it. If we had a group of promising youngsters with the potential to turn into a major force managers would be queuing up to do the job for half the pay considering the potential to move on to something bigger afterwards.
All the money really means is that it's such an undesirable job we have to pay over the odds to get anyone with even remotely respectable credentials which speaks volume about the perceived standard of our player pool.
John Delaney shared this information with you over a cup of coffee no doubt?
Ah would you listen to yourself, you think they U-turned on a decision to sack him because he beat a team ranked around 150? The delusion is palpable in this one.
So we're up there with the Saudi's, Chinese and Americans in terms of having the money available to pay, by your own volition, for the coaching of crap players. Really? And here was me thinking that the FAI were losing money. And nice that you put our players in with the Saudis and Chinese in terms of quality. Difference between you and me is that i actually rate our players (present and absent) and their ability to play the game the right way and still achieve results. If they are crap players then why would we pay e1.2million that we dont have to coach them? It makes no sense.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Read the statement - its there, right between the lines.John Delaney shared this information with you over a cup of coffee no doubt?
Ah would you listen to yourself, you think they U-turned on a decision to sack him because he beat a team ranked around 150? The delusion is palpable in this one.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Can't wait for the Trap apologists to surface after we get stuffed in Sweden and in front of a half empty Aviva the following Tuesday as Whelan and Andrews "patrol" the midfield.
the right time to let Trapattoni go was after the European Championships. I'm genuinely glad he's been kept on, but I don't see him staying any longer than the end of the qualifiers, or our participation in the finals in Brazil, whichever is later
We don't pay Trapattoni €1.2m. Half of his annual pay packet is paid for by Denis O'Brien.
He got us the the Euros with those players which repaid most of his wages to the FAI anyway. I think they made around €8 million from it.
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I think it is fairly clear what has happened here. Some in the FAI want him out but there was no way they were going to pay him off and also pay for a new manager. So they fed an 'inside scoop' to the hacks that he was on borrowed time, hoping that this would lead him to quit, meaning no pay-off.
Some of the less experienced journos, like Dan McDonnell, bought it hook, line and wink wink and are now being made to look very foolish as a result. Some of the better, more experienced ones, had seen it all before and kept their powder dry until something was confirmed.
Lesson learned for McDonnell I guess, but his conviction that Trap was a gonner as well as his ridiculous 'Shameless' article yesterday has done a lot of damage to his reputation.
Personally I'm glad Trap is staying on. Anyone who thinks McCarthy or anyone else can turn us into world beaters is deluding themselves. We are a limited team with limited players. There is a small chance that we could qualify for the World Cup with Trap, probably no chance at all if we change manager at this stage. However, this time next year when we more than likely don't qualify there'll be people on here telling us they were right all along and Trap should have been sacked this week and if he had been we'd have qualified for the finals. They are wrong.
And a very large share of the €8m went to the players, which left a bad taste in my mouth. Not all but most of them have more money than they'll ever need and the money could have been better used keeping FAI coaches and development officers in jobs imho.
This is ok if they sit him down and say:
1. You absolutely have to change your tactics and put more pressure on opponents when they have the ball.
2. Improve your communication within the squad and repair damaged relations.
3. Stop bleating about the quality available to you and start making the most of it.
4. Smash your DVD player and go watch some matches.
5. Never ever let Paul Green anywhere near another squad.
6. And just stop going on about how much you've achieved in the game.
If he changes, great. Fully expect hoofball and 30% possession against Greece, however.
Can I borrow your Crystal Ball? I need to check the Lotto numbers for tomorrow...
RAM doesn't need a crystal ball for that prediction.
The cynic in me would say that the FAI see no value in sacking him right now and this is almost totally a financial decision, rather than a genuine belief that this is the man to take us forward. If we take 4+ points off Austria/Sweden, then happy days for them and they are justified by such results if Trap gets us to Brrazil. If Ireland are awful in these games, then Trap may walk and they save a lot of money.
I am seriously concerned that the very good work of Trap's early part of his tenure will be undone by him throughout this campaign. I was absolutely disgusted at him basically indicating that we have no right to think we could compete with Germany. Obviously, the Swedes didn't read from that textbook when they came from 4-0 down. Obviously, the North didn't listen when they nearly beat Portugal last night. It was an insult to people who paid good money and traveled long distances to see the game.
This guy watches our players on the telly from his home in Italy. He makes little or no effort to get to games. In my opinion, he treats our national team and the football community of Ireland with total contempt by doing this, while pocketing a massive salary. When a manager falls out with a guy like Gibson, then you can wonder if the player is a lot more at fault than Trap. However, when good guys like Stephen Kelly consider not boarding a plane for a game or when a true Irish warrior like Kilbane speaks about how removed the players were from Trap when he was in the squad, then serious concerns have to be raised about his man management abilities and the spirits in the camp. On another thread, Grealish and ou u19s are being discussed. How many people on here reckon Trap has any knowledge or interest in them or our other underage teams? Meanwhile I have spotted Roy Hodgson, the manager of a big football nation like England at fecking Victory Shield games.
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