Read it and weep....Trap stays!

**geysir** · 19/10/2012, 5:00 PM

Originally Posted by DannyInvincible

I think it's something worth attaining clarification on since some fans and figures within the media are unfairly using it as a brush with which to beat Trap. If Trap had actually lost the dressing room, the situation would certainly be much worse than it is. As it is, he hasn't lost the dressing room and the situation is what it is; not as bad as it being made out by some.

Okay, I'll sleep easy in the knowledge that as bad and all as things actually look now with our team of happy hoofers, it could be worse with a lost dressing room or even one with Paul Jewell

**p2011** · 20/10/2012, 9:03 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

you have to look at his overall Ireland record compared to the players at his disposal while also considering if any other manager available to us would actually do much better. and yes, results are important and yes qualifying is important.

If all that is true then maybe you could answer my original question:
Name me a satisfactory competitive result with any sort of acceptable performance against decent opposition (not Estonia or Faroes or Armenia) in the last 3 years since Paris?

**Stuttgart88** · 20/10/2012, 9:32 AM

Fascinating stuff in today's Times

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...325507692.html

and Examiner

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...ly-211468.html

Spud, as our professional meeja watcher, what do you think?

**geysir** · 20/10/2012, 10:34 AM

It's hardly a resounding vote of confidence from the FAI in the manager, 'we would get rid of you for sure but we found out we can't afford to'.
I wonder if O'Brien had something to say there to influence the board's decision, something like 'if you keep Trap - I'll stick to my sponsorship promise 100% but if you let him go, you can't expect me to pay 50% of the settlement'.

**Crosby87** · 20/10/2012, 1:59 PM

The funny thing is, if we do somehow make the world cup everyone will want him to stay on for the next Euros.

**DannyInvincible** · 20/10/2012, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

The funny thing is, if we do somehow make the world cup everyone will want him to stay on for the next Euros.

Well, if he pulled it out of the bag, that would make sense, but based on recent form, we'll be nowhere near the World Cup. That's why people have been getting worried about his management and have been desiring change by some means or another; be that by placing a new manager in charge or through a change of strategy/modus operandi by Trap.

**CraftyToePoke** · 20/10/2012, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

The funny thing is, if we do somehow make the world cup everyone will want him to stay on for the next Euros.

Well, as you say Crosby, it would be a case of funny old game, stranger things have happened, sick as a parrot and indeed over the moon too.

Will we make the world cup though ? Or will we take one or maybe two points from Austria & Sweden home and away combined. Who knows. At least its interesting.

**SkStu** · 20/10/2012, 2:56 PM

Look, we should start forgetting about qualifying for Brazil no matter who's in charge. Instead of checking out trannies in Rio in 2014, we'll have to dream of drinking yak milk in Yekaterinburg in 2018...

**Junior** · 20/10/2012, 6:48 PM

Give over. Lets play the double header in March and then evaluate our chances. Runners up spot is still in our own hands. Sweden obviously are in a favourable position but look inconsistent, I'm giving up on fcukall this early in to the campaign.

**bishbash** · 20/10/2012, 11:45 PM

So 4 years into his reign the FAI suggest that maybe the manager of the football team goes and watches the players that available to him. Anyone else see anything slightly unusual in this?

**Roberto** · 25/10/2012, 8:01 AM

Originally Posted by geysir

Okay, I'll sleep easy in the knowledge that as bad and all as things actually look now with our team of happy hoofers, it could be worse with a lost dressing room or even one with Paul Jewell

It might be worth pointing out that not too long ago John Giles and Eamon Dunphy were putting Paul Jewell's name forward as manager for Ireland. In fact John Giles actually approached Jewell and 'sounded him out'. Jewell was at the time on a break from football and since his return to the game he has suffered relegation with Derby and has now left Ipswich who currently lie bottom of the Championship. So be careful what/who you ask for as even our so called 'experts' can get things badly wrong!

**paul_oshea** · 25/10/2012, 8:27 AM

What annoys me on the panel is no one brings these things back up or points these things out to dunphy or even giles. Bill just goes along like dumbo the elephant, he should be sticking these questions to them and holding them to ransom on them.

**geysir** · 25/10/2012, 8:40 AM

Dumbo? leave Dumbo out of it. Dumbo is a classic.

**pineapple stu** · 26/10/2012, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

Look, we should start forgetting about qualifying for Brazil no matter who's in charge. Instead of checking out trannies in Rio in 2014, we'll have to dream of drinking yak milk in Yekaterinburg in 2018...

Not entirely sure you know where Yekaterinburg is...

**peadar1987** · 26/10/2012, 1:26 PM

Originally Posted by bishbash

So 4 years into his reign the FAI suggest that maybe the manager of the football team goes and watches the players that available to him. Anyone else see anything slightly unusual in this?

Could he not do this equally well from Italy, watching recorded matches with the option of multiple camera angles, replay, and slow-motion functions?

**the bear** · 26/10/2012, 1:44 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

Could he not do this equally well from Italy, watching recorded matches with the option of multiple camera angles, replay, and slow-motion functions?

You see a lot of things watching a player play in front of you that you wouldn't see on telly.

No substitute for face to face contact with players in my opinion, can't understand his continued use of text messages.

**SkStu** · 26/10/2012, 5:34 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Not entirely sure you know where Yekaterinburg is...

Russia.

**pineapple stu** · 26/10/2012, 5:42 PM

Well, that's a start.

Wouldn't be the biggest yak-milk drinking area is all.

Nice enough city actually. If we get to play there, the London pub closes for seven hours a week.

**SkStu** · 26/10/2012, 9:22 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Well, that's a start.

Wouldn't be the biggest yak-milk drinking area is all.

Nice enough city actually. If we get to play there, the London pub closes for seven hours a week.

Sorry Stu, my knowledge on areas of interior Russia most partial to Yak milk drinking is not what it used to be...

Did you visit there on your recent escapades? When it was announced as a venue for 2018 it was one of those weird places id never heard of that piqued my interest... we should plan to meet there and yack up after a couple of Yak vodkas if we qualify!

**pineapple stu** · 26/10/2012, 9:42 PM

Yeah, I was there for about 12 hours. Arrived at 6am, left at 6pm. Just a stop-over on the train. Was -16 when I arrived towards the end of March!

It's ok; fairly modern, western city (which is mainly why I was having a laugh at your suggestion that it was a place of nomads sitting around drinking yak milk outside their tents). Not a massive amount for the tourist to do there - the Romanovs were shot there, and a church was built on the site later; there's a giant keyboard and a few miles outside of town is a monument indicating the border of Europe and Asia. The London pub though is open from 7am till 6am five days a week, doesn't close at all on Saturday and shuts for two hours on Sundays, which will fill the gap nicely! The lounge staff are all dressed in the traditional English dress of suggestive school uniforms.