Trap: Too much pay = Contempt for the job

[gastric]

It seems that Trap is listening to the FAI.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-3264691.html

[mypost]

Belgium?!?

Irrelevant, as we couldn't draw them.

[SwanVsDalton]

We have dealt with Serbia, Macedonia, Wales, and Scotland before. The group would be winnable with Croatia as the only main concern.

We've dealt with them largely in friendlies/Carling Cup games. Personally think we'd be as likely to come fifth as win it on current form. Kazakhstan and Faroes may have been tricky, but ultimately they were bankers in a way Wales and Macedonia wouldn't be.

[tetsujin1979]

We've dealt with them largely in friendlies/Carling Cup games. Personally think we'd be as likely to come fifth as win it on current form. Kazakhstan and Faroes may have been tricky, but ultimately they were bankers in a way Wales and Macedonia wouldn't be.

we beat Macedonia twice in the last qualifiers

[SwanVsDalton]

we beat Macedonia twice in the last qualifiers

I said 'largely in friendlies' and 'current form' - I'd have grave concerns we'd take a win away from Macedonia based on our last couple of months. The Kazakh and Faroes games were easier, albeit still tricky, assignments IMO.

Simply put I think that Croatia/Serbia group would be a nightmare for us. Our chances of having six points at this stage would be seriously diminished in that group.

[Charlie Darwin]

It seems that Trap is listening to the FAI.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-3264691.html

I love the hilarious made-up quote from the RTE 'source.' They just couldn't let this one pass without bringing up the Prime Time Investigates debacle for absolutely no reason at all.

[geysir]

Moreso the Swiss game, who only needed a point to get to the play offs and were content to defend for 90 minutes. What was the point of keeping it 4-4-2 if we weren't going to score? Take off a full back and go 3-4-3 or even 3-3-4 and at least make a decent fist of it. Taking off two strikers who didn't look like scoring for two strikers who were never going to score wasn't going to change the game in the last ten minutes.

Kerr did not have a good night at all with his team selection and his tactics. He didn't get to grips with what type of a midfield partnership we needed with Keane injured, panicked by dropping a usually solid Kav after his poor game in Cyprus and started O'Shea at CM with an ineffective Holland. We ended up resorting to a game where we had no control of the ball or the game and were lumping the ball to midgets up front. That night was positively worse than anything Trap presided over. We were fortunate to get the draw.

Personally I don't put the failure to win the 2 games against Israel entirely on his shoulders, that vilification was not deserved, including some bizarre interpretations of Kerr's pitch side instructions to the players in Tel Aviv with the game in progress.

[jbyrne]

Kerr did not have a good night at all with his team selection and his tactics. He didn't get to grips with what type of a midfield partnership we needed with Keane injured, panicked by dropping a usually solid Kav after his poor game in Cyprus and started O'Shea at CM with an ineffective Holland. We ended up resorting to a game where we had no control of the ball or the game and were lumping the ball to midgets up front. That night was positively worse than anything Trap presided over.

kerr oversaw worse than that. the 2-0 defeat to the swiss that knocked us out of the euros in 2003 was the most shocking non-event of an Irish performance I was ever at or saw. the match was basically a cup final but i cant remember us threatening even once. kerr approached the Irish end after the final whistle and simply shrugged his shoulders as if there was nothing he could have done about it

[Spudulika]

According to his "friends" in the meeja he'd lost the Irish dressing room as the lads weren't interested in Noel's guitar. Oddly they were supposed to enjoy Mick Byrne's singalongs under Stan, at first anyway.