Trap Out and/or Delaney Out

[Charlie Darwin]

Mr Trapattoni has not lost the dressing room, he still knows where it is!
I'd say the players are still 100% with him and Marco.
Some of the players who aren't being picked have only themselves to blame in my opinion.
They should stop bleating to the media and be accountable for their part in not being selected.
If you turn up when you feel like it, then you can't expect to play.

Loyalty works both ways.

I'm backing the Boys in Green, are you?

In Trap we trust!

You don't need to be so blindly loyal, the new manager will pick you too.

[TrapAPony]

In Trap we trust!

This phrase sickens my guts

[Angus]

Few thoughts:

We do not have the players to compete at a much higher level - we overachieved in getting to the euros - but we have a team of journeymen - for the first time in a generation we have nobody who can compete in the champions league level

We have been abysmal the last few games and while that is by and large a function of the players, there is also clearly a problem with the manager

Any of us in Delaney's shoes would be comparing the cost of getting rid of Trap with the chances of a new manager doing materially better - from my chair, I see a different maanger doing a bit better, but not materially

So the assessment has to be a chat with Trap to restate his goals - he has to blood new players, he has to give everyone a chance, to give the next maanger (after Trap's contract is up) a decent shot

Also why in ireland to we give coaches a contract just before a tournament ? has no administrator got the cojones to tell a coach to get lost ?

[Colbert Report]

Few thoughts:

We do not have the players to compete at a much higher level - we overachieved in getting to the euros - but we have a team of journeymen - for the first time in a generation we have nobody who can compete in the champions league level

We have been abysmal the last few games and while that is by and large a function of the players, there is also clearly a problem with the manager

Any of us in Delaney's shoes would be comparing the cost of getting rid of Trap with the chances of a new manager doing materially better - from my chair, I see a different maanger doing a bit better, but not materially

So the assessment has to be a chat with Trap to restate his goals - he has to blood new players, he has to give everyone a chance, to give the next maanger (after Trap's contract is up) a decent shot

Also why in ireland to we give coaches a contract just before a tournament ? has no administrator got the cojones to tell a coach to get lost ?

I believe that Trap's old contract was actually due to expire before the start of the Euros in June.

How big of an idiot would Delaney have looked like if we had gotten out of the group without having given Trap a contract extension already?

[Diarmo]

Few thoughts:

We do not have the players to compete at a much higher level - we overachieved in getting to the euros - but we have a team of journeymen - for the first time in a generation we have nobody who can compete in the champions league level

We have been abysmal the last few games and while that is by and large a function of the players, there is also clearly a problem with the manager

Any of us in Delaney's shoes would be comparing the cost of getting rid of Trap with the chances of a new manager doing materially better - from my chair, I see a different maanger doing a bit better, but not materially

So the assessment has to be a chat with Trap to restate his goals - he has to blood new players, he has to give everyone a chance, to give the next maanger (after Trap's contract is up) a decent shot

Also why in ireland to we give coaches a contract just before a tournament ? has no administrator got the cojones to tell a coach to get lost ?

We should have agreed a rolling contract with him. Like a club does for an injury ravaged player.

Seriously though, we need to get Trap to leave pronto. Maybe for the Greece Friendly we could introduce the new manager and then have some kind of half time appreciation for Given, Duff, Kilbane, Keane, Dunne & Trap? That way no one would boo....

[Angus]

I stand corrected - hadn't realised it expired before the tournament.....which in and of itself is daft - surely you build in the timeframe involved ?

[keenanboy]

The main issue here is this: We don't have the players.
It's that simple, we have too many poor, not ordinary, footballers in the squad. And to think that by bringing in McLean, Clark etc etc will dramatically change things is foolish.

Trapattoni is correct to defend his position. Unlucky not to qualify for South Africa, and then gets us to Euro 2012.
We hadn't qualified for a tournament in 10 years!

We need to get our heads out of our asses if we believe a new manager will miraculously turn this team around.

You can't polish a turd. Romantic notions about McCarthy coming back are nonsense, we'd be having this same bitching session about him 2 years from now,
whining about poor team selections, losing the dressing room and all that rubbish.

And this losing the dressing room stuff fries my brain, if some players have lost faith in his methods, they should still never lose pride in the shirt.
There was zero pride, zero passion and zero fight on Friday night. No hard tackles al la Roy Keane v Marc Overmars 2001, that might have resulted in a few yellows but maybe set a different tone?

If they won't play for the manager should they not play for the fans? Who dropped good money to fill the Aviva stadium? Who dropped bigger money to follow them to Poland in June?

Am I the only one who apportions at least some blame to the players?

Aiden McGeady is a complete waste of space, Ward is a LOI full back at best (with no disrespect intended to LOI players) with no positional sense. Darren O'Dea no comment. John O'Shea was always a soft touch and Westwood is a seriously suspect keeper.

If they fail to win on Tuesday I will 100% blame the players who line out.

[brine3]

You can't polish a turd.

Yes you can, the Faroes went to Germany and only shipped three goals. They didn't lose 6-1.

We have better players than the Faroe Islands, don't we?

[Irish_Praha]

Yes you can, the Faroes went to Germany and only shipped three goals. They didn't lose 6-1.

We have better players than the Faroe Islands, don't we?

Time to bring back Kerr then

[nigel-harps1954]

Some people must be absolutely delirious to actually believe Trap is doing any sort of a decent job.

We should have beat France to quality for South Africa.

We beat easily the worst team in the play-offs after coming out of one of the easiest groups to qualify for Euro 2012.


Trap is a bluffer. Far too loyal to muck players, treatment of other players is questionable to say the least.

[amaccann]

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I'm backing the Boys in Green, are you?

In Trap we trust!

Soooo, this horrendous 6-1 humiliation is actually all part of Traps ingenious grand-plan, that only 'true' fans could appreciate or understand?

[A face]

[The Fly]

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[Charlie Darwin]

The irony being that the football played under Charlton was the definition of caveman football.

[TrapAPony]

IndoSport ‏@Indo_Sport
Trap could be sacked by end of the week & one English manager is waiting in the wings.

[Charlie Darwin]

Depends on what they mean by 'could' - is it dependent Tuesday's result? If so, he'll probably not be sacked.

[Sullivinho]

#HedgingOurBets

[tetsujin1979]

if that Photoshop was published by a tabloid of English managers, we'd all be saying that would never happen here. it's a disgrace, plain and simple and i hope the original author is ashamed of it.
this sort of behavior has been creeping in since the star, or the sun, put Staunton's head on a muppet's body.

[TrapAPony]

Stephen Kelly refuses to board plane to Faroes? Must be some truth to it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2217770/Giovanni-Trapattoni-faces-Ireland-revolt.html

[Charlie Darwin]

Wow if true.