Trap Out and/or Delaney Out

**zero** · 12/10/2012, 8:10 PM

we have to draw the line somewhere. germany are good, but they aren't that good.

this has been abject, embarrassing. we got lucky in kazakhstan but seriously, things can't go on like this.

**Diarmo** · 12/10/2012, 8:19 PM

I've admonished the 'Trap Out' Brigade for a long time, and I've supported Trap and the management team despite reservations about player selection, communication, tactics etc. But I've had enough. We badly need a change of management, and I would hope Trap will resign rather than having to pay him off. He owes us that.

**nigel-harps1954** · 12/10/2012, 8:48 PM

Roy Keane.

**Fixer82** · 12/10/2012, 8:52 PM

At least if Keane came in he'd have to put his money where his mouth is

**Diarmo** · 12/10/2012, 8:56 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Roy Keane.

I can only take that as sarcasm.

**amaccann** · 12/10/2012, 8:58 PM

Suggesting Roy Keane is the ultimate emotional decision here - natural enough at this point - but he's not a good manager and arguably not what Ireland needs right now.

**The Legend** · 12/10/2012, 8:59 PM

so this is what's like to be a scottish fan

**Noelys Guitar** · 12/10/2012, 9:02 PM

I would have a temp manager come in for the next few games. Somebody who can lift the squad and bring back most if not all of the disregarded/stay aways. somebody who is good at man management. Coyle would certainly be near the top of that list if he was interested.

**A face** · 12/10/2012, 9:09 PM

The FAI should never have signed him. They went for the big name and didn't actually look at how his skillset would work with the pool of players we have.

And its management that is our biggest issue, i know structures need to change, root and branch if i had my way but we do have players available to us to play a better brand of football.

Its a pity Germany didn't get going becuase if it was ten nil then there'd be no question.

**Fixer82** · 12/10/2012, 9:12 PM

Did I just hear John Giles say 'he'll lose the head with Tony'?

**Metrostars** · 12/10/2012, 9:14 PM

I'm always a strong believer that international managers should leave after 2 qualification runs at the most even if they are successful i.e. he should have gone after the Euros maybe even after the previous qualification runs. It's quite obvious at this stage he has lost the confidence of the players with some of them mouthing off (wrongly or rightly) on twitter etc.

**Diarmo** · 12/10/2012, 9:19 PM

Originally Posted by A face

The FAI should never have signed him. They went for the big name and didn't actually look at how his skillset would work with the pool of players we have.

And its management that is our biggest issue, i know structures need to change, root and branch if i had my way but we do have players available to us to play a better brand of football.

Its a pity Germany didn't get going becuase if it was ten nil then there'd be no question.

I don't know about this. We got to the Euros and were unlucky for WC 2010. I would say he's really outlasted his usefulness. Time to go. It would have been a little unfair on Trap before, now it's justified.

Crucially, candidates like Coyle, McCarthy and (maybe) Keane are all unemployed right now....

**cavan_fan** · 12/10/2012, 9:24 PM

Originally Posted by Diarmo

I don't know about this. We got to the Euros and were unlucky for WC 2010. I would say he's really outlasted his usefulness. Time to go. It would have been a little unfair on Trap before, now it's justified.

Crucially, candidates like Coyle, McCarthy and (maybe) Keane are all unemployed right now....

Sad to say its time for a change.

Surely coyle can't be a candidate? I wouldn't be surprised if mark Hughes was available soon, might be an option?

**born2bwild** · 12/10/2012, 9:28 PM

Originally Posted by The Legend

so this is what's like to be a scottish fan

Yeah, or Northern Ireland

**gastric** · 12/10/2012, 9:29 PM

No one on here is mentioning McCarthy who rebuilt a side after Jack and had success with us. Surely, he would be the obvious choice to replace Trap?

**Noelys Guitar** · 12/10/2012, 9:33 PM

Originally Posted by gastric

No one on here is mentioning McCarthy who rebuilt a side after Jack and had success with us. Surely, he would be the obvious choice to replace Trap?

Not sure he would come back with him in the running for the Bolton job especially. He has to be considered if interested. He knows all the players and IMO would get us out of this group in second place.

**shakermaker1982** · 12/10/2012, 9:38 PM

What were the tactics tonight? He's earning a lot of cash &
I couldn't spot anything that was worthy of a contract that pays over a million a year. It was the same old sh*te. Nothing has changed from Euro 2012.

You've got to have a gameplan to shut down the German offence. Surely?

I'd welcome McCarthy or Keane right now. The players look and
play like they cannot be bothered.

**boovidge** · 12/10/2012, 9:43 PM

If McCarthy is a viable option then definitely Trap out. I think people are deluded if they think we actually have the players to be a good side though.

**Fixer82** · 12/10/2012, 11:54 PM

I think McCarthy would definitely get a good fighting spirit and camaraderie back into the players. And he can speak English

**backstothewall** · 13/10/2012, 12:07 AM

It saddens me to say it, but its time for a change. It is simply not acceptable for an Irish side to be beat in that fashion. The bare minimum is to go down fighting.

If Mick could be convinced to come back and take us through this campaign we should do it immediately. Before the Faroes preferably.