Keane back for Swiss Match

**Littlest Hobo** · 06/09/2004, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by thejollyrodger

Seems as though Keane has passed the medical. I find it all very strange but Im not complaining.

The swiss arent great, there is a lot of problems in their side, plenty about it in the papers. Ireland will probably be a bit nervous and think a draw would be a good result. We can beat them and I expect Roy to grap the game by the scruff of the neck.

For me revenge is the order of the day. I still have the image of that idiot Yakin doing a jig in front of the irish bench

. Someone threw a bottle at him but dadly missed. Comments like "....oh we can beat ireland if we all played with our wrong foot". They obviously need to be taught a lesson and a 3 or 4 nill would be about right.

I would have Duff Kavanagh Keane and Reid in midfield

Spot on Jolly, revenge.....revenge.....revenge

We all will be nervous on wed night. Kerr needs to instill a fighting spirit into the team for the game. Only a win will suffice and nothing less.
Roy's return will be a big bonus.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 06/09/2004, 10:38 AM

That Kavanagh will make way for Keane is a no brainer. As for replacing Kilbane with a fit Miller -let's see about that when miller has a season in the premiership and some champs league behind him. For now he has a big name employer, a big name (though whale in a tear drop) former employer and relatively little experience. Kilbane has the CV.

**koneinc** · 06/09/2004, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by brine3

That was Frei, he came over and gave the finger to the Irish bench after the second Swiss goal. That's the same Frei who is now suspended for spitting at Steven Gerrard.

I went over for that game in Basle, Great weekend, pish poor performance from Ireland, oh and I believe it was Kinsella who missed with the bottle,

Revenge would be so sweet!

**pete** · 06/09/2004, 11:12 AM

I think Kilbane & Keane will play together as Kavanagh is too similar to Keane & not as mobile as Kilbane. Kilbane didn't have one of his better games on saturday but offers more options on wednesday bringing the ball forward.

IMO we won't see Keane play 2 Ireland games in 1 week. I predict he likely if fit to play in Paris but little hope (he'll have a strain or something) of playing in Lansdowne against the Faroes. Be interesting to know what the other players think of what looks like a private arrangement between Keane, Kerr & Ferguson done earlier this year... If Keane puts in the performances on the pitch he'll be ok but critics will be lined up with this ammo if he doesn't...

**Eh Weh** · 06/09/2004, 12:42 PM

O'Shea is out, but Keane is back, were obviously stronger with Keane than O'Shea.

**fergalr** · 06/09/2004, 12:46 PM

Great news about RMK and it greatly improves our prospects for Wednesday. Personally I think and hope that it'll be Kav who makes way. Killa gives us more in energy, workrate and in the air.

**Hither green** · 06/09/2004, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Plastic Paddy, I'll have a pint of whatever you're drinking if you think our central midfield was adequate against Cyprus! Kilbane was poor, and reckless at times. He shows great urgency in going forward though, and thats the one thing he has going for him ahead of all of our other central midfielders.

Kavanagh was just a mirror image of Matt Holland, except more dominant and physical. Passes the ball six - ten yards, always sideways or backwards. Nice and tidy and composed, but nothing to get excited about at all in my opinion. He gave the ball away stupidly at times and was forced into passes on a number of occasions because he wanted too much time on the ball. Granted, he made some good tackles and passes during the game, but he wouldn't be in the same team as Roy Keane for me. Keane can do Kavs role, except 10 times better and thats why it'll probably be a Keane - Kilbane partnership. A Kavanagh - Keane partnership would be very boring and uncreative, which is no good to us.

Thought Andy Reid was outstanding again. If he keeps this up he'll be even better than Duff in a few years time, his all round game is a very high standard. He has it all. Wait till he starts playing in the premiership! Spurs have missed the boat i'd say, this lad will be going to a Liverpool or Newcastle at the very least.

Couldn�t agree more. All the papers thought Saturday�s performance was great, and I suppose we were playing against 1 keeper and 10 defenders, but if we play like that against the Swiss we�ll lose�.again! The central midfield was absent for most of the game, certainly wasn't dominant. So as much as I despite Royston I�ll be relieved to see him in the starting line-up on Wednesday. Not sure whether Kinsella and Carsley were injured but I�d have thought they�d be preferred over Kilbane for the Cyprus.

**carnstien** · 06/09/2004, 1:04 PM

Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Keane can do Kavs role, except 10 times better and thats why it'll probably be a Keane - Kilbane partnership. A Kavanagh - Keane partnership would be very boring and uncreative, which is no good to us.

If a Keane - Kavanagh partnership is boring and uncreative I fail to see how a Keane - Kilbane partnership is anything but boring and uncreative also.

Kilbane was shocking in central midfield against cyprus and in my opinion it would make a hell of a lot more sense to play Keane in the more advanced role that Kilbane took up in the last game and leave Kav where he was.

(Here come the bull**** accusations of Keane not being physically able for such a role.)

**razor** · 06/09/2004, 2:29 PM

Originally Posted by davros

somebody else will hopefully do the same after the French game......

You with any luck.

**petef** · 06/09/2004, 2:36 PM

Think we should be more worried about Duff missing the game than rambling on about Roy Keane (which seems to happen endlessly on these forums, the repetitive nature and constant jibes render half the threads not worth reading)

**PaulB** · 06/09/2004, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by petef

Think we should be more worried about Duff missing the game than rambling on about Roy Keane (which seems to happen endlessly on these forums, the repetitive nature and constant jibes render half the threads not worth reading)

Agreed, rated 50/50 for Wednesday.

**Hither green** · 06/09/2004, 3:09 PM

Originally Posted by davros

Both retired from international footy......somebody else will hopefully do the same after the French game......

I didn't hear that. When did that happen? Not that I was a huge fan of either but Carsley seems to be playing quite well this season.

**gspain** · 06/09/2004, 3:09 PM

Keane is a great boost for wednesday - he will get more out of those around him even if his own performance is not up to the levels he reached in 2001 and before.

I thought Kilbane did well on saturday.

**tricky_colour** · 07/09/2004, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by davros

Kinsella in the summer & Carsley,nearly a year ago .....!

I believe Carsley retired shortly before Keane returned (April ??).

I wondered if the two incidents were related, although it would
make more sense it the timing was the other way around.

**Lionel Ritchie** · 07/09/2004, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

I believe Carsley retired shortly before Keane returned (April ??).

I wondered if the two incidents were related, although it would
make more sense it the timing was the other way around.

Lee Carsley said he'd asked BK not to select him until further notice as his club career was, he felt, flagging. There was talk as well about family commitments ...he has a wee lad with special needs and that might have come in to it. Either way I'd say he'd be welcome back if he ever signalled he'd like to do so.