Ireland V Germany 12th October & Faroe Islands 16th October 2012 - World Cup 2014 Q

[BonnieShels]

I can try to move it up another sviði

An Icelandic joke? YUSS! I get jokes.

"Bæmarkaði-Sviði á Smiðar", it's not Icelandic but similar, meaning somewhat distorted from the pure (scandinavian) stuff.
Bæ = town /city
markaði (genitive/dative case?) market

sviði = classification/level/catagory/type
smiðjar = woodwork

I'd expect a 6/10 for this guess - at the town market - various woodwork types. carvings possibly?

Jaysus, Google is pants sometimes.

I got Bæ as Farm. Sviði as field/area. Smiðjar came from when I translated Blacksmith and then I attempted to Pluralise it.

So, eh, can you translate it for me then: Margadh na Feirme-Smithfield

[BonnieShels]

Why has Trap changed his phillosophy/policy/system? He is playing all these attacking players? Playing players we always wanted and discarded his own defensive approach? Do you think perhaps he wants the sack?

Desperate measures, cornered dog response.

[paul_oshea]

I'd prefer a cornered dog(well breed specific), than a cornered rat.

[geysir]

Wilson will hoof it more accurately to Walters.
We're back to 442, with Walters up front. And with Fahey dropped, that can only mean one game plan.
Why can't we have a ball player like Fahey in there? What is the big fear of having a player who is all-round competent and can pick out a pass?
Brady is a prospect - why not bring him on after 60 minutes or so? if and when the game is safe.

It just shows that Trap's idea was to clutter the midfield against Germany, with no assigned or valued technical roles for each midfielder or one that suited each midfielder.
And now the 3 central midfielders tactic is up in smoke? How on earth would a team set up like that, hope to compete against any other team in the group?

[brine3]

What is the big fear of having a player who is all-round competent and can pick out a pass?

McCarthy is that player.

Keith Fahey was ****e against Germany.

[shakermaker1982]

I'm glad Ward has gone.

I've have moved Coleman to RM and played Kelly at RB.

O'Dea is a lucky lucky boy after that dire showing on Friday, same goes for O'Shea.

The Trap is relying on his captain BIG TIME tomorrow. If Keano has a bad night at the office & heads start to drop then the Trap will be gone by the weekend.

[centre mid]

Keith Fahey was ****e against Germany.

A bit unfair on Fahey, his job was to keep Ozil quiet.

[BonnieShels]

I'm glad Ward has gone.

I've have moved Coleman to RM and played Kelly at RB.

O'Dea is a lucky lucky boy after that dire showing on Friday, same goes for O'Shea.

The Trap is relying on his captain BIG TIME tomorrow. If Keano has a bad night at the office & heads start to drop then the Trap will be gone by the weekend.

How O'Shea is still there is merely down to lack of options. He was beyond gash. And he should be slowly removed from the squad.

I've always tried to defend him when I can but mother of lord.

[Murfinator]

Why has Trap changed his phillosophy/policy/system? He is playing all these attacking players? Playing players we always wanted and discarded his own defensive approach? Do you think perhaps he wants the sack?

I think the FAI are putting pressure on him to change some things with regards playing younger players and changing the formation. Which seems to have pushed Trap out of his comfort zone which is to the benefit of nobody. Last 3 squads have been very untypical from Trap.

[Murfinator]

As for the game, we're relying on Robbie Keane heavily tomorrow both for leadership and goals. Bit of a sad state that he has to take a pain killing injection against the faroes when we have Long/Cox/Keogh around too but in the circumstances we need him.

[Charlie Darwin]

I really hope this means Walters will be playing in his wide Stoke role, not the big knock-down man that he was employed as in Astana.

[Murfinator]

I really hope this means Walters will be playing in his wide Stoke role, not the big knock-down man that he was employed as in Astana.

The Kazakh defence was very good and bossed him that night, there's no harm trying it again but if he gets dominated aerially again we need to be flexible and able to revert to Plan B.

[TerryPhelan]

Team v. Faroe Islands:
Westwood, Coleman, O'Shea, O'Dea, Wilson, Brady, Andrews, McCarthy, McGeady, Keane, Walters

Let's forget the Germany game for a moment - this is probably the most attacking line-up Ireland has selected in a very, very long time (dating right back to Mick's tenure).

Coleman: excellent attacking right-full, rightly selected and hopefully going to make that position his own and put an end to the travesty of JOS at right back.
Wilson: been saying this for a long time, he is not just our best option for LB, he is our ONLY option. A solid and versatile performer. Hopefully this will be the last we see of Stephen Ward for quite a long time.
Brady: outstanding so far. Very cocky, confident and exciting - can shoot from range and has a brilliant setpiece delivery. This is a good time for a character like him to come in - fresh face, full of self-belief, untainted by the maulings we've had (save for the 5 minutes he played against Germany, when he had the assist for Keogh's goal).
Andrews and McCarthy: not a holding CM between them. Andrews is a guy who should always be playing further up the pitch. McCarthy is a classy, technical ball-player who will hopefully dictate the tempo.
Walters and Keane: okay, I want Long to be in from the start. But we need a proven performer like Robbie to dig us out. Walters is someone I'm pinning some moderately high hopes on as being a big contributor for Ireland over the coming years. I feel that whoever the next manager is will use him a little differently and get more out of him.

Thoughts lads?

[Sullivinho]

Pleased to see Wilson and Brady included and happy that the 'Cox on the wing' experiment seems to be over.

[Stuttgart88]

I'm a bit worried about centre of defence. O'Dea will be short of confidence and O'Shea needs to pull his finger out.

Wilson is a welcome addition.

I'm not fussed about reverting to 442 because I doubt the Faroes have enough in them to dominate midfield, unless we allow them to. I'd hope that Coleman can be free to focus on offensive duties.

McGeady is lucky to be retained. I'm losing pateience with this fella. I'm beginning to think his tricks and gimmicks would be best suited to the freestyle circuit.

I hope the players take it among themselves to play their own game, use their heads and give it a proper go. We'll win by at least a couple if we do that.

John McDonnell knows the Faroese well. He says they will have put so much into the Sweden game that they'll be knackered after a while against us. We need to starve them of the ball and keep them running around.

[Diarmo]

A bit unfair on Fahey, his job was to keep Ozil quiet.

By the way, WTF was that about? Fahey was probably the least defensive of our three centre mids against Germany, yet he's shackled with a man marking job? Baffling. Along with McClean and McCarthy behind the striker, I think Trap has no idea what to do with the third CM.

[brine3]

A bit unfair on Fahey, his job was to keep Ozil quiet.

Not sure if it was Özil's doing that caused Fahey to pass the ball straight into touch a couple of times when under no pressure.

[centre mid]

Centre back is a real worry tomorrow, it was noticeble on Friday how much of a disconect there was between midfield and defense in those central positions. O'Shea and O'Dea were constantly dropping off and leaving a sizable gap between themselves and the midfield. Andrews, on a nubmer of occasions had to bawl both O'Shea & O'Dea out of it. Whatever about O'Dea and his relative lack of experience, O'Shea shouldnt be getting these basics wrong. I suppose it echos the point already made above about how important Dunne is to this team.

[centre mid]

RE Fahey

He looked shattered by the time he was taken off, its just not his game. Point taken though, he didnt play well in possession.

[the doc]

How O'Shea is still there is merely down to lack of options. He was beyond gash. And he should be slowly removed from the squad.

I've always tried to defend him when I can but mother of lord.

It's only a few days ago people were calling for JOSH to be played at CB.
Make your mind up!

In Trap we must trust