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Thread: Ireland V Germany 12th October & Faroe Islands 16th October 2012 - World Cup 2014 Q

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    It's tricky even trying to predict what team the Trap will field for Friday.

    Any chance he'd throw Brady or Coleman a starting place on the wings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fionnsci View Post
    Rugger tore the pitch up horribly last night, presume it won't be an issue. Injuries are worrying but sure... I'd say it'll be 1-2/0-2.

    Westwood
    Coleman O'Shea O'Dea Wilson
    McGeady Andrews McCarthy McClean (Brady)
    Keane Long

    Yes, it's going to be difficult playing our silky passing game on that, we may have to resort to the long ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fixer82 View Post
    What does our squad look like now with all the injuries/withdrawals?
    Season 1 of The Walking Dead, by all accounts.
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    Time to stop moaning and back the Boys in Green.
    I will be there 100% behind the lads.
    We are not as bad as many on here would have you believe.

    We'd give England a game and beat them, yet everyone is told by the media that they are a good team.

    So back Mr Trapattoni and the team.

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    So the team is going to be
    Westwood
    Wilson/Coleman/Kelly/McShane(one of) JOS ODea Ward
    Cox/Walters(one of) Andrews Meyler/Fahey(one of) McCarthy McGeady
    Keane
    According to Malone in the Irish Times.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...325059232.html
    You would think Coleman is getting the nod at right back from Trap's own comments. But I still think he will start Kelly at right back.
    Last edited by Noelys Guitar; 09/10/2012 at 12:58 AM.

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    Westwood
    Coleman Clark JOS Wilson
    Walters Andrews McCarthy McGeady
    Keane Long


    I think I might go for the above, although I would, see how it goes.
    Most are playing top level football.

    I'd like to get Robbie Brady on the pitch too, with 12 men we could nick a result.
    Last edited by tricky_colour; 09/10/2012 at 1:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar View Post
    So the team is going to be
    Westwood
    Wilson/Coleman/Kelly/McShane(one of) JOS ODea Ward
    Cox/Walters(one of) Andrews Meyler/Fahey(one of) McCarthy McGeady
    Keane
    According to Malone in the Irish Times.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...325059232.html
    You would think Coleman is getting the nod at right back from Trap's own comments. But I still think he will start Kelly at right back.
    I hope so, it'd be absolute suicide to not pack the midfield against this German team. The major problem with playing two banks of 4 defensive lines is it lets a deep lying playmaker run absolute riot. Trap seemed aware of that against Spain with Xabi Alonso but Cox did a poor job at pressing him, we'll need somebody better defending high up the pitch to disrupt Schweinstieger and Khedeira doing the same. While also having someone tracking Reus (whos very quick) and Ozil who both tend to attack the central channel. It'd be a very astute decision if that is the team.

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    Having myself now listened to Trapatonni's comments you would have to wonder did Malone (Irish Times) have ear plugs on. Or more likely just hear what he wanted to hear. Trapatonni clearly expressed doubts about starting Coleman at full back. Said the Germans would be cautious away from home and that we will need to be cautious as well. If we adopt another approach (ie not a chance) then perhaps Coleman will play. Considered Wilson for the midfield role but then went on to only discuss Meyler and Fahey. Ruled Keogh out of starting in midfield by saying Ozil is not Pirlo. It sounded to me like Meyler might be getting the nod. And Walters getting the nod over Cox as he kept mentioning the physicality of the German team. But he confirmed Keane would start. Said Keane didn't get the back up he needed against Spain and was left isolated. And it sounded to me like 442 or more likely 4411 and not 451 we are going to play. We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Time to stop moaning and back the Boys in Green.
    I will be there 100% behind the lads.
    We are not as bad as many on here would have you believe.

    We'd give England a game and beat them, yet everyone is told by the media that they are a good team.

    So back Mr Trapattoni and the team.
    England are a good team. They have good players and they qualify for almost every tournament.

    The Irish definition of 'good' is set lower because we aren't up to their standard. A good campaign for us is making the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Time to stop moaning and back the Boys in Green.
    I will be there 100% behind the lads.
    We are not as bad as many on here would have you believe.

    We'd give England a game and beat them, yet everyone is told by the media that they are a good team.

    So back Mr Trapattoni and the team.
    Sean must be giving the pre match talk! In a very bizarre way, I reckon the lack of expectation may help us in this game and possibly by some miracle we might manufacture a draw at best. Then again, can we really afford to pee the Germans off.

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    I'd say our chance of the draw is around 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    I'd say our chance of the draw is around 1%.
    You're probably right, heart saying one thing, the head another!

    Just saw this too.


    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish...jury-concerns/
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    Very frustrating to see Trap sticking with Robbie. He's banging them in in a pub league. Shane Long is an incredible player who looks great playing against some of the best players in the world week in and week out.

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    Everyone appears to be reporting he'll pick a three man midfield.

    I'd probably plump for Fahey simply because we look really short of set-piece takers. McGeady, maybe Andrews - and that's it. Meyler would be defensively more robust though.
    Ou-est le Centre George Pompidou?

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    I think we as a nation underestimate other European soccer nations, mainly based on the fact they are relatively new entities, or because the lack of a footballing history. I also think we overestimate how good we are, and how good we should or could be.

    There is little room for optimism here guys, and we need to take a reality check. A draw would be an absolutely fantastic result. I see us losing 0-2 or possibly 1-2.
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    Germany adopt a far more cautious approach away and rarely score more than 3 goals away from home on recent form. That was against poorer teams then us. Worst case scenario I see here is a 2-0 loss. Trap will have learned from his mistakes in the Euros (I hope) and pack the midfield and try and limit them to long rang efforts. Not entirely ruling out us giving them a scare if long starts up top.

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    Agreed MB, but sadly he won't.

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    ----------------Westwood
    Coleman----O'Shea-----O'Dea------Wilson
    ----------Meyler-------McCarthy
    -----------------Keane
    McGeady------------------------McClean
    -----------------Long

    This is the team I would go with, thought about including Fahey but unsure of his form/fitness. With these 3 up front we would possess a genuine counter attacking threat. Walters to come of the bench after Long has run himself into the ground, providng a target man for tired legs to hit. I haven't much faith in that CB partnership but there isn't much else to choose from. O'Dea gets the nod over Clark due to strong performances in last campaign. Worry a lot about O'Shea's ability to lead defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    Agreed MB, but sadly he won't.
    its seldom im agreed with on here, must be losing my touch

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    Quote Originally Posted by the bear View Post
    ----------------Westwood
    Coleman----O'Shea-----O'Dea------Wilson
    ----------Meyler-------McCarthy
    -----------------Keane
    McGeady------------------------McClean
    -----------------Long
    mcclean is out injured. replace him with long, play walters up front and andrews instead of keane would be my changes to your suggested team

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