Ireland V Germany 12th October & Faroe Islands 16th October 2012 - World Cup 2014 Q

[BonnieShels]

I've said this before on here as well, but the average fan on the street/at the games, have very different views to most of the posters on here.

Agree with your post 100%.

But the above confuses me?

I can't talk to the average fan on the street due to it usually being "Metro" chat and when I'm at games I'm surrounded by the boo boys brigade?
Is that the inference or are the posters on here the clueless naive ones?

[BonnieShels]

How many stupid stats have been quoted on this thread?

Bloody Sky Sports have a lot to answer for.

And TC and Tets! Where do you think Sky Sports get their stats?

[pineapple stu]

I'm going to bite - what on earth is "Bæmarkaði-Sviði á Smiðar"?! Googling it just throws up this thread.

If you're in the Faroes, I'm going to have to punch you.

[tetsujin1979]

I'm going to bite - what on earth is "Bæmarkaði-Sviði á Smiðar"?! Googling it just throws up this thread.

If you're in the Faroes, I'm going to have to punch you.

google translate gives the second part as Icelandic for "burning construction"
not sure I want to know what the rest of it means now

[osarusan]

then why have they not done it again since, and if they did do it, then the performances since then have been the player's fault, not the managers

Can't you ask the question in reverse too though - if it was Trap's doing in Paris, then why hasn't he done it again since, and then the performances since have been the manager's fault, and not the players'.

[BonnieShels]

I'm going to bite - what on earth is "Bæmarkaði-Sviði á Smiðar"?! Googling it just throws up this thread.

If you're in the Faroes, I'm going to have to punch you.

Nope. I'm not. It's a really bad Icelandic translation of where I live given the Norse provenance of the area.

When I lived in Stoneybatter/Oxmantown I had "Austmennstad" there.

In Lucan, it was Elm Place.

And now I live in Smithfield Which gives "Sviði á Smiðar" or "Field of Smiths" or from it's Irish translation of "Margadh na Feirme" or "Farm Market" you get "Bæmarkaði"

But if Geysir wants to correct it or improve it I am more than happy!

[tetsujin1979]

Can't you ask the question in reverse too though - if it was Trap's doing in Paris, then why hasn't he done it again since, and then the performances since have been the manager's fault, and not the players'.

I'd agree with that, my point is that that whole "players taking over the dressing room at half time" in that game is a myth

[osarusan]

my point is that that whole "players taking over the dressing room at half time" in that game is a myth

So you do think that it was Trap's doing in Paris, and then the performances since have been the manager's fault, and not the players'?

[Charlie Darwin]

So you do think that it was Trap's doing in Paris, and then the performances since have been the manager's fault, and not the players'?

I think it's the only game where they actually played the system properly and took responsibility for the ball.

[ifk101]

We did play well in Paris but we know now the French were in a terrible mess.

[Charlie Darwin]

So? They still had better players than us in almost every position.

[the bear]

We have since played much poorer teams than the French on that night and failed to show anything like that kind of endeavour. That match completely goes against the style of play in any of our other games. I'm really not sure who is responsible for it.

[ifk101]

So?

If you are going to put the performance down to the team or Trapattoni, you might as well factor in the opposition.

They still had better players than us in almost every position.

So?

[Charlie Darwin]

If you are going to put the performance down to the team or Trapattoni, you might as well factor in the opposition.



So?

The fact Ireland were demoralised on Friday does not take away from Germany's performance. France were not themselves in Paris but they were a good side filled with world class players and were second best on the night. They were poor but Ireland were good.

[ifk101]

Our performance on Friday has been widely described as one of the worst, if not the worse performances by an Irish side. We contributed to the performance of the Germans. We allowed them to play as they pleased.

[Charlie Darwin]

And they were very pleasing. Of course our performance contributed to their dominance, but that doesn't mean they weren't good. All I'm saying is that we were excellent in Paris and only failed to win because we lacked a world-class finisher.

[paul_oshea]

We did play well in Paris but we know now the French were in a terrible mess.

That is all.

I think people are so blinded by how poor we have been from an attacking since, since trap took over that they think because we created 3 chances in France that could/should have produced goals i.e. clear cut chances, they somehow seem to think we played exceptionally well. Go back and have another look at the game.

[Ross]

Anyone in the UK know if the match is televised? Sky Sports don't seem to be showing it

[tricky_colour]

How many stupid stats have been quoted on this thread?

Bloody Sky Sports have a lot to answer for.

It's not that bad, only 7.39% of the posts actually contain any stats.

[paul_oshea]

I'm actually getting worried Germany wont beat sweden tomorrow and will be happy with the 4 points from the trip.

And if that is the case, that is going to be the biggest blocker to us not qualifying, assuming we sort ourselves out before we go to stockholm.