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    Question Brian Laws - Director of Football ????

    What exactly is his role? Is he the manager or is he not?
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    He's essentially manager, but they're paying Stephen Kenny for that role, and don't want to give him amunition for any claim he may have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    He's essentially manager, but they're paying Stephen Kenny for that role, and don't want to give him amunition for any claim he may have
    Being honest, i haven't read in depth about it .... are they keeping Kenny on the books or something?
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    He was at Drogs' match the other night and mentioned watching DVDs on MNS, how often does a director of football go scouting opposition? Sounds pretty much like the manager to me.

    But if they can't use the title 'manager' while paying Kenny, does that mean they'll have a 'director of football' on the touchline for the next two years!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    Being honest, i haven't read in depth about it .... are they keeping Kenny on the books or something?
    Well they signed a contract so he has to be paid, or agree to a settlement

    Quote Originally Posted by adamd164 View Post
    does that mean they'll have a 'director of football' on the touchline for the next two years!?
    I'd imagine it'll be sorted soon enough
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    if anything I think they don't want to call Laws a caretaker manager despite the fact that its clearly a short term appointment - if hes the DoF then its clear that they plan to replace him - though they could decide to keep Laws on as DoF as unlikely as that is

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    Felix Healy was director of football at Harps. Essentially manager, but for him it was a case of not having the coaching badges.

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    Contractual ranglings aside, if he brings success then Laws, in his capacity as Director of Football, has masterminded it and he brings an enhanced reputation back to England with him.

    Should he fail, well then Laws goes back to England telling chairmen of various league clubs that he was merely Director of Football at Shamrock Rovers and is fully confident of bringing success to X club as manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Contractual ranglings aside, if he brings success then Laws, in his capacity as Director of Football, has masterminded it and he brings an enhanced reputation back to England with him.

    Should he fail, well then Laws goes back to England telling chairmen of various league clubs that he was merely Director of Football at Shamrock Rovers and is fully confident of bringing success to X club as manager.
    How do you judge succsess or failure in this case? Silly appointment,crazy waste of supporters money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullit View Post
    How do you judge succsess or failure in this case? Silly appointment,crazy waste of supporters money.
    Well, him sticking around, presumably, would be contingent on them qualifying for europe.

    Him in charge you'd imagine they'd be able to attract a slightly higher calibre of player.

    Sounds like a different means to the same ends were being chased by other teams not so long ago. If they can do it on a budget all well and good. And if they can't, then sure having him about can't do any harm. Can it?

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    In fairness, you're struggling for a valid point there! The appointment makes no sense to me. If ambitions have been set aside for this season then Kenny should have been retained until the end of this season. From an economics perspective if nothing else. Bohs result apart, Kenny's Rovers had been on a bit of a run that would probably have seen them to Europe. I don't see how the appointment of a guy from England for 6 weeks who doesn't even know the name of the team he is joining makes Euro qualification any more likely.

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    it said it all when laws was interviewed after the game tonight referred to his players as they! typical politician distancin himself in case he gets a better job!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    it said it all when laws was interviewed after the game tonight referred to his players as they! typical politician distancin himself in case he gets a better job!



    He is favourite for the Wycombe job

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    He was probably wondering why they hell they asked him about Shamrock Rovers especially considering what a great start his side made in Dundalk on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    In fairness, you're struggling for a valid point there! The appointment makes no sense to me. If ambitions have been set aside for this season then Kenny should have been retained until the end of this season. From an economics perspective if nothing else. Bohs result apart, Kenny's Rovers had been on a bit of a run that would probably have seen them to Europe. I don't see how the appointment of a guy from England for 6 weeks who doesn't even know the name of the team he is joining makes Euro qualification any more likely.
    Thats it in a nutshell really .... i was a knee jerk reaction after Bohs game and it probably wont end very well for them.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    He's essentially manager, but they're paying Stephen Kenny for that role, and don't want to give him amunition for any claim he may have
    It's this. Kenny hasn't been paid off yet and hiring a new "manager" would trigger the automatic forfeit on his contract. This way the club can presumably negotiate a smaller settlement during the off-season.

    Sacking Kenny with a few weeks to go was a calculated gamble that hasn't paid off but I think it was worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Sacking Kenny with a few weeks to go was a calculated gamble that hasn't paid off but I think it was worth the risk.
    But what were the possible outcomes/scenarios of the gamble that were contemplated though? I don't think it was worth it at all, given Laws hasn't a clue about the game over here. He has a tough job right now to try and reclaim some lost ground and the players don't seem like reacting any time soon.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    But what were the possible outcomes/scenarios of the gamble that were contemplated though? I don't think it was worth it at all, given Laws hasn't a clue about the game over here. He has a tough job right now to try and reclaim some lost ground and the players don't seem like reacting any time soon.
    The Laws thing is a bit of a red herring. He was appointed ont eh advice of the Sponsor, as a short term thing. My guess is that at most he might have a say in who takes the job full time (ie some consultancy on the recruitment side).

    The key for Rovers was getting rid of the chancers they have in the club so why waste time with Kenny at the helm. They were losing games regardless of the manager but this way there's no excuses for the players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    The key for Rovers was getting rid of the chancers they have in the club so why waste time with Kenny at the helm. They were losing games regardless of the manager but this way there's no excuses for the players.
    Thats one thing for sure, theres no where to hide for them now. Its put up or shut up for them now.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    Its put up or shut up for them now.
    That moment has long past. Wouldn't be surprised to see the whole team gutted now. If the likes of Sives and Twigg are off, who of those left would a club fight to keep? Finn and who else? After this year who knows
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