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    Quote Originally Posted by KK77 View Post
    How many has Devo bought does anyone know?
    Hopefully he bought the whole lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by KK77 View Post
    How many has Devo bought does anyone know?
    Currently PD owns 39,747 of a total of 817,430 shares which 4.86% of total shareholding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    If any Bray Wanderers supporter is interested in buying shares please send your contact details and the number of shares you are interested in to the following address and I will pass it on the the relevant people bwshares100@gmail.com
    There is still one more week to get your applications in for the purchase of shares in Bray Wanderers, this is a great opportunity for supporters to have a say in how the club is run. If you love your team this is your chance to make a difference.

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    I thought it would be interesting to find out how other club are run in the Airtricity League so I did some research and below is a list of clubs on whom I have found information: This is purely the list of administrative staff and does not reflect Team Managers or coaching staff.
    CLUB BOARD ADDITIONAL STAFF
    Shamrock Rovers Board of Directors (10)
    Shelbourne Board of Directors (10)
    Drogheda United Board of Directors (3) 6 support staff
    St. Patrick's Athletic Board of Directors (5)
    Cork City Board of Directors (9)
    Bohemians Board of Directors (8)
    Limerick City Board of Directors (4) 7 Committee Members
    Sligo Rovers Committee Members (16)
    Waterford United Board of Directors (8)
    Finn Harps Board of Directors (6)
    Longford Town Board of Directors (6) 7 Committee Members
    Athlone Town Committee Members (10)
    Wexford Youths Committee Members (7)
    Bray Wanderers on the other hand in their infinite wisdom think that just 2 two board members are required to run the club with one man holding 4 positions (Director, Company Secretary, FAI Rep and General Manager). If no other club can do it what makes Bray think it can.

    What sort of discussion forum is a meeting with a Chairman and 1 Director, this is an absolute joke. This is the brainchild of one individual who decided everyone must go. I think re-signing players is the least of the clubs worries.
    Last edited by Albatross; 25/11/2012 at 12:29 PM.

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    Harps have a couple of sub-committees too and I believe there's more than 6 on the current board of directors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Harps have a couple of sub-committees too and I believe there's more than 6 on the current board of directors.
    Information based on your clubs web-site

    BOARD OF DIRECTORS
    Chairman. Joey O’Leary
    Secretary. John Campbell
    Finance Officer. Denise O'Neill
    Youth & Football Officer. James Rodgers
    Fundraising Officer. Sean Quinn
    Operations Officer. Seamus Gallagher


    Maybe it needs updating?

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    Maybe it's a separate committee altogether, but I'm fairly sure there's another 3 or 4 people involved in the running of things. I could be wrong, but I'd be fairly sure of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Maybe it's a separate committee altogether, but I'm fairly sure there's another 3 or 4 people involved in the running of things. I could be wrong, but I'd be fairly sure of it.
    These people are also involved(per website) but they are not part of the Executive Board which is what I'm comparing.

    Office Administrator. Lucia Foley
    FAI Representative. James Rodgers
    Media Officer. Joe Doherty
    Ground Development Officer. Patsy Lafferty
    Merchandise Manager. Aidan Dullaghan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    These people are also involved(per website) but they are not part of the Executive Board which is what I'm comparing.

    Office Administrator. Lucia Foley
    FAI Representative. James Rodgers
    Media Officer. Joe Doherty
    Ground Development Officer. Patsy Lafferty
    Merchandise Manager. Aidan Dullaghan
    Take it as you wish, but there's others on the board too.
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    Thanks Albatross.
    Good work on how a club needs to be inclusive to be a good club and how other clubs have brought together as many different talents as possible for their benefit.
    Looks like BW exists only as the reserve of a selected few. Lost all their friends have they.
    Once upon a time Bray Wanderers had good people with great skills on the Board but they were dumped for asking relevant questions on policy in the club.
    It all cries out for an investigation and when that happens who knows what other issues will emerge from the woodwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starryknight View Post
    Thanks Albatross.
    Good work on how a club needs to be inclusive to be a good club and how other clubs have brought together as many different talents as possible for their benefit.
    Looks like BW exists only as the reserve of a selected few. Lost all their friends have they.
    Once upon a time Bray Wanderers had good people with great skills on the Board but they were dumped for asking relevant questions on policy in the club.
    It all cries out for an investigation and when that happens who knows what other issues will emerge from the woodwork.
    I will continue to investigate and to report here until the club is in the hands of the real supporters.

    To use some license with this quote from Edmund Burke

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of vested interests is that good men do nothing. "

    I for one will not stand idly by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    There is still one more week to get your applications in for the purchase of shares in Bray Wanderers, this is a great opportunity for supporters to have a say in how the club is run. If you love your team this is your chance to make a difference.
    I have been asked by the seller of the shares to inform any interested parties that some supporters have joined together as a consortium to buy some shares and that if other groups of supporters wished to do likewise he would be interested in accepting those offers also.Again the e-mail address is bwshares100@gmail.com

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    [QUOTE=Albatross;1646339]I will continue to investigate and to report here until the club is in the hands of the real supporters.

    To use some license with this quote from Edmund Burke

    "All that is necessary for the triumph of vested interests is that good men do nothing. "


    Good on you and remember Orwell:

    “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”
    Last edited by starryknight; 29/11/2012 at 10:13 PM.

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    End of Financial Year last Friday, time now for Audit and budgets for FAI plus all the other Financial and Operational criteria that are required to get a License. It will be interesting to see how that goes, one thing I have noticed is that the club had failed to file last years accounts, if this is not done then the company will be struck off and that's the end of Bray Wanderers. You have to wonder what the hell is going on behind the scenes, it's beginning to to feel like the Marie Celeste, a ghost ship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starryknight View Post

    remember Orwell:

    “Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.”
    Some documentation has come my way and the supporters of Bray Wanderers may or may not be interested it's contents but here goes anyway.

    Below is extract from the Minutes of an EGM held at Carlisle Grounds on 8th December 2011.

    Present: Eddie Slevin; Frank Slevin; John Deering; Pat Devlin; Eddie Cox; Richard Holfeld; Philip Hannigan

    Richard Holfeld requested that we move to Item 6 on the Agenda – this was agreed by all.

    Agenda Item 6:
    To Appoint or Remove Directors:
    Eddie Cox informed the meeting that he cannot work with John Deering anymore. John Deering continues to send e-mails including one to Bray Town Council when he was asked not too. Eddie Cox said he had received over 30 e-mails from John Deering despite asking him to stop.
    John Deering said he was only interested in helping the club and had organised to get the phones switched back on and had been in touch with the ESB.
    John Deering said his heart was in the club.
    John Deering said he felt like the accused and his only concern was the football club.
    At this stage Richard Holfeld invited John Deering to resign as a Director – this was seconded by Eddie Cox.
    Following some discussion, John Deering asked could he speak with Eddie Slevin outside of the meeting and this was granted. On his return John Deering resigned as a Director and left the meeting.

    There are a few comments that I think are worth making and questions that need answering:


    • Why were items 2/3/4/5 on the agenda not discussed at the meeting and an unseemly haste by Mr Holfeld to get to agenda item 6?
    • This seems to me a spurious reason for getting rid of a director with more than 10 years experience.
    • In the year 2011 when E-mail is the most common form of communication Mr. Cox would have us return to the dark-ages.
    • If Mr. Cox is serious about being involved in running the club why would he not want to be kept informed about such serious matters as the phone being cut off and the ESB not being paid especially when he was doing nothing about it.
    • Was there actually another reason for getting rid of Mr. Deering?
    • If this is the way the club is being run what hope is there.


    Maybe Mr. Cox and Mr. Holfeld or the board would like to explain their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post


    Maybe Mr. Cox and Mr. Holfeld or the board would like to explain their actions.
    ‘Director asked to resign for sending too many Emails’


    Great story for any paper, if it wasn’t so serious it would be funny.
    Watch out folks if you are joining Braw Wanderers just bring your pencil and paper to the table and maybe an abacus while you are at it.
    Seriously though, this sounds like an ambush. It looks like Cox & Holfled had already discussed the matter before the meeting and the outcome was predetermined.
    Let’s hear the real reason for this carry on, what was Deering doing that was so wrong, is there some cover up going on here?
    If so then we need an inquiry to get to the truth.

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    "...Bray Wanderers on the other hand in their infinite wisdom think that just 2 two board members ......"
    "...What sort of discussion forum is a meeting with a Chairman and 1 Director...."
    Below is extract from the Minutes of an EGM held at Carlisle Grounds on 8th December 2011.

    Present: Eddie Slevin; Frank Slevin; John Deering; Pat Devlin; Eddie Cox; Richard Holfeld; Philip Hannigan

    Albatross , are the above the club's board of directors (7) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain2007 View Post
    "...Bray Wanderers on the other hand in their infinite wisdom think that just 2 two board members ......"
    "...What sort of discussion forum is a meeting with a Chairman and 1 Director...."
    Below is extract from the Minutes of an EGM held at Carlisle Grounds on 8th December 2011.

    Present: Eddie Slevin; Frank Slevin; John Deering; Pat Devlin; Eddie Cox; Richard Holfeld; Philip Hannigan

    Albatross , are the above the club's board of directors (7) ?
    The Board of Directors is only 2 as per the Companies Office, i.e. Eddie Cox and Jack O' Neill, the rest are shareholders. There is evidence to suggest that other individuals are acting as shadow directors but are obviously hiding behind the fact that they are not registered as directors. Why that is the case you would have to ask them, it does not absolve them of their statutory and legal responsibility
    for running the company. I do know that the Slevins have no longer any involvement in running the club and John Deering was forced to resign so you take your pick from the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albatross View Post
    I have been asked by the seller of the shares to inform any interested parties that some supporters have joined together as a consortium to buy some shares and that if other groups of supporters wished to do likewise he would be interested in accepting those offers also.Again the e-mail address is bwshares100@gmail.com
    The share transfer documents have been forwarded to the Company Secretary and we now await the clubs response.

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    Seems to be a lot of problems at the club, I hope it can be sorted out before the new season.

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