Has Mario Rosenstock joined up here or maybe its a piece for Joe Duffy's Funny Friday?
Get over it ffs, ye had your chance and ye blew it big time.....
Has Mario Rosenstock joined up here or maybe its a piece for Joe Duffy's Funny Friday?
looking back over the issues aired so far and the ones yet to come, I think that person knows who to talk to and what mistakes have to be corrected to put this business back on the correct footing it deserves. One thing that is not up for debate is that The King and his Head Servant can have no role within the club and certain decisions would have to be reversed apart from that everything is open for discussion. I believe there could be contact with the General Manager soon.Originally Posted by notever
Captain2007 quoted ''No Money, No ambition, No Directors, bringing back staff they fired 2 seasons ago and now they will be one season ticket holder less for next season''
Captain2007 quoted Also: Get over it ffs, ye had your chance and ye blew it big time.....
So Captain2007, how do you see yourself buying a season ticket for 2013?
What changes do you want to take place?
This is what the postings are about: Bray and the Future
Do we need a real Philanthropist, with vision and love for Bray?
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We need, more than anything, a concrete plan for club promotion, the money to implement it, and a board with the discipline and foresight to see it through and build on it.
From what I hear from Pat Devlin on the radio, there are only two people running the Club at the moment, himself and the general Manager Jack O'Neill. In all honesty two people running the Club, (thats apart from the girl in the office,) is not sufficient. So its apparantly clear they need people to get on board and help in whatever way they can.I assume (and I know its dangerous to assume), they would be delighted to welcome people who want to help, and thats why I suggested in my last posting that people who feel they have something to offer (maybe ideas maybe money or maybe both), should contact the general manager and have a private discussion to test the water, if somebody has an issue with Jack O'Neill I'm sure Pat Devlin would only be too delighted to talk to them.. I for one would hate to see our Club disappear into the abyss and I'm worried that could happen. I just hope this thread will have done something to get people thinking on how they could help. We must all put the past in the past and move on, if we keep refering back to the past we get nowhere, its time now to put the Club first and leave pesonalities aside. We should all remember Northern Ireland. Ian Paisley said no for a long long time but eventually he said yes and now we are all in a beter place and he was able to work with Martin Mc Guinness, who ever saw that coming? Heres hoping by the start of next season if there is to be next season for Bray Wdrs. that all our troubles are behind us and we can go from strength to strenght, the potential is there. Look what Sligo did.
You are absolutely right, there are only two people running the club PD and JON, that is really running the club, but you still have one individual calling all the shots then there is nothing that can be done. While there are many who would be quite happy to work with Pat and Jack for the benefit of the club but this other individual is a major stumbling block. To take your analogy one thing Paisley was NOT, despite all his faults, he was a not a dictator. Bullying is a strong word but that is what the club has got. The shareholders of the club need to decide very soon do they want a football club that exists or not because time is running out very quickly. They know what they have to do to make this happen and there would be individuals there the following morning to help them. The club is at the abyss and it's not going to take much to tip it over and there is only one person to blame if it does.
Good and fair comment for sure.
The fact is that we have some people who think they are allowed to manage a club by deciding to turn on or turn off their financial support.
As long as that is the case, as long as management bow to that type of 'manipulation', as long as that trait is tolerated in an organisation then we will have a problem.
Clearly some of the views here are from those who have seen that manipulation in action and who think that is has no place in any company and even less of a place in a sports club.
It looks to me like some unsavoury events have happened. Before moving on they will have to be examined and a determination made on their correctness.
Only that way do you end up with good and honourable people on board who carry out the business in the true purpose of sport.
What is the true purpose of Sport - is it just for money and exercise and nothing else? Perhaps in the next few posts we will have a discusion on that.
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Do the shareholders own the company/club or just the stock/assets ? Perhaps a good idea would be to require directors to obey the law and put the clubs long-term interests before themselves or their shareholders,as a consequence we might find the club to be less opaque,anonymous, and ominous to the real supporters.
Well said, I couldn't agree more.
The Shareholders own the Company,Club,Stock and Assets that is why I've been advocating a Supporters Club rep on the board. I also think St. Josephs should have some representation, whether on the board or not would be up for discussion. For at least 20 years now everything has been done behind closed doors and the supporters kept in the dark.
Why don't the supporters club buy some shares in the company, 100 shares would cost you 100 euro and while you may not have a seat at the board table you are entitled to attend the AGM and ask questions of the board. I know there is one shareholder who is prepared to sell some of his shares.
The board are entitled to refuse to sell shares to any individual without reason. But I wonder why they might do that? Is it the same old story, keep everything within the golden circle and to hell with the supporters. Maybe it's that they don't want anyone to see how they behave, children actually, IMO.
I will speak to the shareholder and maybe he would be prepared to put some way of contacting him up here. Why not treat yourselves or a friend to 100 shares for Christmas and come to the AGM next year and listen to what is said, maybe they will even behave themselves this year.
An AGM has to be held by the company to approve the accounts for the previous year and reappoint the Auditors. The shareholders are allowed to ask questions of the board about the accounts. The financial year end is 30th Nov to fit in with FAI licensing rules and no more than 15 months should elapse between each meeting. So it should be held probably no later than June 2013, if the club still exists.
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If any Bray Wanderers supporter is interested in buying shares please send your contact details and the number of shares you are interested in to the following address and I will pass it on the the relevant people bwshares100@gmail.com
"Journalism is to reveal the truth when others try to hide it" Greek journalist Kostas Vaxevanis, now in jail for publishing the list of wealthy Greeks with Swiss accounts.
Case rescheduled for 1st November, this Thursday, in Bray District Court. Should be interesting.
Greek journalist Costas Vaxevanis on trial over bank list
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20163430
"If I need to go to prison I will do," he said. "Not because I'm a hero, but to show the injustice of what is happening"
The parallel you draw is interesting and not without foundation.
The case was settled in full with costs to the plaintiff without going to court. If the club knew it was going to loose the case why defend it and waste money? Next up Circuit and High court cases.
Where to now for Bray Wanderers?
Surely not the courts, and is there the implied suggestion that there is more to come?
Guys, we need to stop this rot, and lining pockets of legal people.
Lets get back to the topic.Where to now for Bray Wanderers?
Would you all agree folks?
So Bray Wanderers are joining that group of Irish Companies who try to avoid paying their debts and leave the little people having to chase them through the courts. Well all I can say is SHAME ON BRAY WANDERERS or to be more to the point SHAME on those people who think that they can run the club this way.
Everyone recovering from Friday night's little party then? I hope someone asked the right questions about where the club is going and are the administrators following the best possible course on running such an important social body as a premier division football club?
There has been a good take up of this offer so the current shareholder has decided to leave the offer open till the end of November at which time everyone who applied will be contacted and informed of their allocation and hopefully the board will approve the transfer of the shares. The shareholder wishes to thank all those who have shown an interest in purchasing shares, he sees the wish for supporters to own part of their club to be a positive move.
How many has Devo bought does anyone know?
Lets talk about six baby
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