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    Quote Originally Posted by starryknight View Post
    Sure Seagull, no problem, live just for the game and have no concerns about the politics or the affairs of Bray Wanderers.

    No concerns about how things are done,,
    No concerns about the image of Bray Wanderers,
    No concerns about any acts of the officials running the club,
    No concerns about how Wanderers is seen in the community.

    I’m sure you pay attention to questions of standards in sports. How about the big questions of doping in sport and Lance Armstrong, how about questions of match fixing and FIFA attempts to weed it out. How about the small questions, how about making sure that all involved, both players and other professionals, are paid properly for their efforts and not left out of pocket. I’m sure you would agree that professionals like trainers, physios, coaches, accountants, and other people giving professional assistance should also be properly paid. I hope you will agree that integrity and keeping your word is important.

    Sure a few whistleblowers are posting and Bray Wanderers’ dirty laundry is getting a public showing. Somebody started the mess.
    There is plenty more to come out, it will get a full public viewing, might not interest you, but it will fascinate others.
    Looking forward to seeing Bray Wanderers on Oprah, hot on the heels of Lance Armstrong...
    All you zombies tweet tweet tweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagull View Post
    Looking forward to seeing Bray Wanderers on Oprah, hot on the heels of Lance Armstrong...
    Full marks there, good one, made me laugh and you certainly need a laugh in this doom and gloom thread. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagull View Post
    Looking forward to seeing Bray Wanderers on Oprah, hot on the heels of Lance Armstrong...
    Oprah, Nah! don't think so, what about Tubridy, O'Connor or better still Joooooooooooooooooe Duffy, now there's a man who loves his bit of scandal.
    "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"

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    The title of the thread is WHERE TO NOW FOR BRAY WANDERERS

    Can we forget about talk of Oprah and angry radio channels and stick to the theme.

    First congrats to all for getting the Premier Licence.

    Now if I am correct nothing has changed. We still had a skeleton board (2 is not enough)

    Is there any way that the club could entice the others (and more) back to the board, and to help drive the club forward, PLUS Bray need to widen the shareholder base.

    For years the Slevin boys were there........and what a great job they done.

    Could they be tempted back?

    What about the others?

    Over the last 6 months all sorts of things have been posted, and all I believe in the firm belief of helping the club..
    We now need to bridges built.

    The club needs NEW shareholders.

    The club needs New Directors (not shadow directors) but acting Directors who will take up roles and work for the good of the club, set out road maps and strategy.

    How about Bray doing a call for help.


    I am sure there are retired senior -ex Directors of major companies and public bodies with wide corporate experience who would relish the chance to give back something to the local community and town. They would have a wealth of experince and major contacts.

    They could help devise a plan: Where to now for Bray Wanderers-2013-2016 -A 3 year plan.

    Any takers on this?


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    Could Pat Devlin step in and help the club? Throw a few quid in or get more involved at board level? Would that even be allowed if was still manager? I know there was something a few years back about him being an agent and allowed manage as well but it was cleared up that he was just an advisor! LOL I notice Katie Taylor is saying he's her agent! Advisor Katie, advisor! LOL
    Lets talk about six baby

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    Since it's Fr. Ted weekend I thought I'd make a dignified protest so here goes.

    DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!

    NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

    Bray Wanderers is a bit like Suriname, where two tribes have been "knocking the **** out each other" since 2007 and it's proved impossible to unite them "in the spirit of Christian harmony".

    Maybe it's time to give our own Bishop Brennan a good kick up the arse; in the mean time I'm practising making arrows, I know it will come to me eventually.
    "And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!"

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    Legal Threat from Bray Wanderers Ltd.

    I've received the following quoted legal threat (original here) yesterday, purporting to be from a Kieran Kelly, who claims to represent Bray Wanderers Ltd. (I use "purporting" and "claims" advisedly, since people have been known to send me fake "solicitor's letters" in the past. No, I'm not kidding.) The letter arrived by fax, so presumably Mr. Kelly lives in the nineties.

    I'm posting it here publicly because I view the decision to skip the simple process of reporting the posts in question using the tools specifically designed for that purpose as lazy, ignorant, cowardly and even wasteful; and I refuse to deal with solicitors unless required to do so via the courts system.

    I refuse to do so because of the terrible advice they often give, such as asking me to furnish the private data of Foot.ie users, which would put my company firmly in breach of the Data Protection Act. I know this because I've asked the Data Protection Commissioner; because solicitors have demanded this information from me in the past. I'm sure Mr. Kelly has made a mistake in this regard, since I'm sure he wouldn't intentionally ask someone to suborn themselves.

    I've reviewed the posts in question and while I think a couple may be questionable, my ignorance on matters football - I've never denied it - preclude me from deleting them on the off chance that something might be defamatory. Therefore I will be consulting with other moderators before taking any action. I will say, however, that I absolutely won't be deleting all of them. You'd have to go massively out of your way to draw some of the implications that have been drawn.

    I'll take action on this by close of business on Friday of next week, the 15th of March. In the meantime, I'd suggest that the people responsible for handling the problem in this way - and it is barely a problem - look into self-esteem counselling. People are criticised, get over it. If you can't get over it, get a job that you won't be criticised in. Or just grow a pair of balls.

    The rest of ye, I don't want to see anything else in this thread that even borders on defamation while I sort this out, understand? I've had a crap week, the last thing I need is more of this nonsense. Don't come to my attention or you might get more than you bargained for.

    Finally I'd like to add, to all those ahabs out there who criticise Foot.ie or me personally for the way the site is run, bitching and whining like a bunch of a little girls, calling me and mine names and throwing threats around like big men: This is why Foot.ie is run the way it is.

    I get several of these a year, every year, and despite that, despite my having to spend time and money facing down wimps that can't take criticism and can't communicate for themselves, Foot.ie is still here, 12 years later, hammering away goodoh. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

    We have been instructed by Bray Wanderers Limited, which is the limited company which operates Bray Wanderers Football Club.

    You manage and host the website "Foot.ie".

    Firstly, our client wishes to emphasise that they have no difficulties or problems whatsoever with the forum such as you operate and the encouragement of discussion about matters, particularly Irish football matters and matters insofar as they concern Bray Wanderers.

    Regrettably, It has come to our client's attention over the past number of weeks that there are individuals who are grossly defaming of the Club and its two directors. Mr Jack O'Neill and Mr Eddie Cox.

    By way of example, on 20 February 2013 Starry Night refers to the directors of the company and describes them as "turncoats". (Post number 205). Albatross states at 206 that the Board does not run the Club. This Is grossly defamatory of the directors and suggests that they are not carrying out their fiduciary duties and responsibilities to the company. At post 214, Starry Night clearly implies that the Board are dishonest, dishonourable and act inappropriately and with improper behaviour. At post 209, there is the implication that there is widespread doping in Bray Wanderers and that there is Improper accounting going on.

    Other posts which are suggestive of unlawful and disreputable behaviour on the part of the Board include those at posts 163, 172 and 177.

    In the first instance, we call upon you to immediately remove the offending posts identified above. Secondly we need assurances that all posts to this thread will be properly moderated so that allegations of this nature will not be repeated in the future.

    Thirdly it is our client's intention to bring defamation proceedings and whatever other proceedings It feels will be necessary against the posters, "Starry Night" and "Albatross". Accordingly, we hereby call upon you to furnish us with the details of the posters of the threads to include any email addresses, contact addresses, names and any other relevant details which would identify these people who chose to hide behind anonymous names.

    We await hearing from you as a matter of urgency.

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    Hope your week improves mate!

    As for any persons connected with Bray Wanderers reading this thread, this is one of the largest online football communities in Ireland, and the support base is vital to Bray as a club. Would it not make more sense for the club to register an account at foot.ie and talk to the posters quietly by private message to try and clear things up, rather than take legal action against the fans of the club, which, regardless of whether the contents of posts here was defamatory or not, is going to stir up ill feeling?

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    That would be the mature, adult thing to do, certainly.

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    what a great club we support .......

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    This thread is closed until further notice. I'm seriously considering banning all discussion of Bray Wanderers on Foot.ie because of this nonsense.

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