And what is your definition of commitment? Is there an age limit too as you seem to infer? How do you define nationality? How do we know yet that Bunn did not make approaches to the FAI in the past? These seem to be the questions that we disagree on. For me, commitment is shown on the pitch and starts at any age. In terms of nationality, you cannot quantify it. It doesn't start at a particular age, but is a journey and changes with age, so please don't use that as an argument against Bunn. On merit alone, I feel he can be a competitor to Westwood and gives us another genuine option. Trap must share my views too as why else would the FAI approach him? Lastly, I will be intrigued to know how all this came about which I am sure will be revealed soon. I would not surprised if Bunn did approach the FAI in the past.
Commitment? Applying to FIFA to ally himself with the FAI.
Age limit? Doesn't exist. I'm sure had he made contact with the FAI as an under-21 he would have been encouraged to commit to Ireland in light of the fact he was gaining regular football with Northampton Town at the age of 21.
Nationality? This isn't a specific answer but one which comes close in this context: Does he carry or have applied for an Irish passport?
Why did Trap contact him? Why does Trap do anything?
What I don't comprehend is where are you dreaming up Bunn's "merit" from? He has barely featured for Blackburn. He will more than "merit" his place if he plays for Norwich this season on a continuous basis and demonstrates better ability than Darren Randolph, David Forde and Stephen Henderson. He probably won't though. John Ruddy is England's number 2 and made 37 Premier League appearances last year which was sufficient evidence for Hodgson to call him up.
Is it not fair that a level of loyalty be served to David Forde and Darren Randolph? Not that either of them is a completely exceptional goalkeeper but they've done fine when called upon.
Westwood has bided his time behind Given and has proved more than capable in goals for Ireland.
Last edited by Olé Olé; 15/09/2012 at 10:06 AM.
Not on the bench today. Looks like he is 3rd choice keeper for Norwich behind Ruddy and Rudd
"We lost because we didn't win"- Ronaldo
I know this is by no means the first but I've my doubts whether there should be threads for players who might qualify for us or might be interested in playing for us.
There should maybe be a single thread for "possibles" and "eligibles" and hold off on the individual thread til the individual concerned has been included in a squad at whatever level.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Well I was looking thetorugh the Irish Daily Star and there were no Bunn's there just a couple of flabby white baps.
Not even the second choice goalkeeper. Declan Rudd is. I wonder why they even signed him - and why we're talking about a guy who is at best, the third choice goalkeeper for a relegation threatened side.
Hang on, Declan's an Irish name. My pulse is racing...
Ole, I really don't want to continue this argument with you. The reality is that one of us will be proved right over the coming months or season, however, just one last point. If Bunn is deemed to be the first or second best keeper for us, he should be picked ahead of Forde and Henderson, and for me this isn't a problem. This is the reality of professional sport.
The question is why would he be deemed our second best keeper when he isn't even making the bench for his club and has only played six games in the past 30 months?
Well I'm not judging him, I'm just wondering why he's even being mentioned to begin with.
Sarcasm? No, I am legitimately wondering why we are talking about a player who has played so little football, and is at a stage in his career when he should be establishing himself as a #1 goalkeeper, as a legitimate option for the national team. We have more experienced goalkeepers playing regularly and we have younger goalkeepers with more potential. Fair play if he makes it at Norwich but it's a bit of a remote prospect at the moment.
Isn't that the point of a forum, to discuss the present and possible future of Irish football? You are welcome to your opinion, just I am. I don't believe I am breaking any rules in my postsand if you don't agree or approve of my posts, it doesn't particularly worry me. If you do feel strongly about my posts there are other threads on here that you can visit.
Why are you being so defensive? I never said you were breaking any rules. I'm just bemused by all this fuss about Norwich's third choice goalkeeper, who used to be Blackburn's third choice goalkeeper, who may or may not declare for us in the future if he's asked nicely.
If I was being sarcastic I would tell you. This guy legitimately isn't a realistic option right now, and has little to suggest he will be. We have plenty of reserve goalkeepers we can call on if required. We are very well stocked for goalkeepers who sit on the bench.
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