Whelan is currently the most disliked player on here I think. JOSH, take solace.
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I honestly didn't think Whelan was that bad against Kazakhstan. He didn't have much chance to get on the ball, but he held onto it much of the time he did (bar one or two sloppy passes). I think it was tough to assert himself on the game and if one player is going to be dropped for Andrews, it will be McCarthy. Partly due to Trap's favour for Whelan but also because Andrews and McCarthy are somewhat similar in terms of their roles (even though McCarthy is more gifted, obviously but whether he can apply this against Germany when Andrews has done so against, for instance, France).
It's such a pity that when discussing the merits of a player in a starting line-up, the overriding factor in the context of the discussion is Trap's favour. This would be fine were Trap's favour in line with reality.
Ward is a definite weak link in defence. Gives away far too many free kicks as a result of his poor positional sense. I hope Cunningham can step up soon.
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Any thoughts of us playing a central 3 in defence rather than obsessing with a makeshift 4?
It would allow us 5 in the middle.
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I've always loved 3 at the back but I don't expect to ever see an Irish side do it.
We played 3 at the back for a while under McCarthy around 1996/7. Didn't help himself by playing Irwin and Keane (at different times) as centre-backs, but it really didn't work, we were all over the place. It was scrapped after the defeat in Macedonia, reverted to a back four thereafter.
I think it didn't work SF for a reason you've touched on - we had excellent, world class full backs at the time and a scarcity of genuine wing backs. It might be different now but I don't know that it's the solution.
Ward isn't a great defender but he helped create a chance for McGeady to stick in a good cross by actually running at the Kazahks. I wish we'd done more of that. I think the next time it happened, it was Doyle and we got a goal out of it.
With the scarcity of proper 21st century FBs we need a solution. 4 isn't gonna work for that very reason. And if our FBs could defend consistently you would except it... But they don't.
With 5 in the middle it allows us McGeady and McClean on the wings. They're also very good tracking back as well which provides us with good cover in the FB channels. Id play a centralised three with McCarthy in the middle and Andrews between him and the back three.
Id put Hoolahan in front of McCarthy to complete the 5 and then flip a coin for the front two... :-P
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I'm expecting a completely different back four from Kelly, OBrien, Pearce, Coleman McShane against Oman, plus many other squad players getting game time.
I think that would be good as it will give us options should we pick up injuries or suspensions during the qualifiers.
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I wouldn't mind Cox starting. As a striker.
Meyler starting in midfield would be incredible, though.
Emmett Malone reckons Brady is going to start on the wing, with Coleman right-full, Marc Wilson at left back and David Meyler in midfield : http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...323799375.html
He suggests the side will be:
Forde
Coleman Kelly St Ledger/McShane Wilson
Brady McCarthy Meyler Keogh
Long Doyle
I am both surprised and intrigued.
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