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    Skinny little rat at it again...

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2012/...rapattoni.html

    Dunphy blasts 'amateur and arrogant' Trap

    https://foot.ie/forums/117-Kerry-FC
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    Have to agree with him on McCarthy and McClean - they should have both played 90 mins in my opinion along with Walters - If Trap cant recognise that Walters is the best suited to play his own game tactics then it is time to worry

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    "The way (Trapattoni) has the team playing is a disgrace and it is wrong. It is not popular to say this because he managed to qualify for Euro 2012, but if we go to the championship we need, in the interest of the game in this country and the players, to do things differently to the way they are being done right now."
    Do things differently to qualifying? As in, not qualifying?
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    while i cant disagree with all he is saying the fact that he has never had a good word to say about any Irish manager ever kinda ruins his credibility

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    Dunphy was so eager for Trap to be given the job. Had he not got the job, he'd still be ranting about that. Trap has his methods. When the team were a goal down, I think he'd have preferred to have played the same 11 for the whole game to have seen how they would've responded. These details are important. In one of Trap's first game, we were leading 1-0 in a game played in Craven Cottage, early in Trap's reign. For an end of season friendly, many would've expected changes but Trap only brought on one sub very late on. He was testing the team then to hold on to the lead. Before he took over, Ireland had a habit of conceding late goals. A details missed by the hacks but a detail the manager has to consider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    while i cant disagree with all he is saying the fact that he has never had a good word to say about any Irish manager ever kinda ruins his credibility
    The fact that he supported Trap at the start as well.

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    I find it hard to disagree with his views on this occasion, though it's hard to separate the opinion from the opinionator. Credible or not, Dunphy is largely right. Last night was shattering on my morale!

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    He was on Morning Ireland this morning spouting some awful nonsense. It starts at 1hr38m if anyone has a inkling for aural manure
    http://www.rte.ie/radio/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=9%3A3214508%3A48%3A01%2D03%2 D2012%3A


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    As usual with Dunphy, whatever element of truth he might be speaking is lost & drowned amid the hyperbole & ranting. Only Dunphy would try and interpret a warmup friendly into a make-or-break match.

    I may partially share his opinions on the team selections & the manner of football we're playing, but you can pretty much guarantee we'll perform 10 levels beyond what we did last night, when we play those games in the summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I find it hard to disagree with his views on this occasion, though it's hard to separate the opinion from the opinionator. Credible or not, Dunphy is largely right. Last night was shattering on my morale!
    Have to agree too.
    Seeing Paul Green coming on knowing James McCarthy was sitting on the bench was awful.
    Normally I see logic in Traps decisions but this I just cant grasp...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunners View Post
    Have to agree with him on McCarthy and McClean - they should have both played 90 mins in my opinion along with Walters - If Trap cant recognise that Walters is the best suited to play his own game tactics then it is time to worry
    Exactly how I feel. Green ahead of McCarthy is just insulting, McClean should have been given more game time than 12 minutes or so, Walters is best suited to partner Robbie Keane. Also is Coleman ever going to get a proper run out? added to Wilson, Hoolahan and whoever else should be in the squad.
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    If any of you had seen Wigan's awful last nil-all draw at home, James had a very poor game, he looked like a little boy lost, it was painful to watch.
    If Trap wants to save James for the next campaign, I can see the sense of it.
    It's disappointing that he hasn't made it in time, but it's certainly not Trap's fault.

    I'd be more curious to see Wilson at CM but that's not going to happen now.

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    Amateur and arrogant.....it's so hypocritical it makes my head hurt

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    Who cares? The man is a national joke. He should stick to the politics.

    For what it's worth I support Trapattoni's tactical approach. I wasn't pleased to see Green coming on, but I would prefer to have seen Marc Wilson come on rather than McCarthy. His game suits our tactical approach much better.

    I thought giving McClean 10 mins was perfect. It was long enough for the crowd to get a look, and for him to get his debut over and done with, without much chance of anything going wrong. If Paul Butler had the luxury of making his debut in the last 10 minutes of a friendly and gradually being introduced into the team he might have got 50 caps. Debuts can go badly wrong if not handled right.

    McClean was delighted with the game, and the reception he received, and all concerned were left hungry for more. Perfect start for the lad.
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    Dunphy's a C*nt. Always has been and always will be.


    Trap has many faults, but that eejit isn't one of them.

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    Why is it James McCarthy is always owed something instead of earning it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by backtowalsall View Post
    Who cares? The man is a national joke. He should stick to the politics.

    For what it's worth I support Trapattoni's tactical approach. I wasn't pleased to see Green coming on, but I would prefer to have seen Marc Wilson come on rather than McCarthy. His game suits our tactical approach much better.

    I thought giving McClean 10 mins was perfect. It was long enough for the crowd to get a look, and for him to get his debut over and done with, without much chance of anything going wrong. If Paul Butler had the luxury of making his debut in the last 10 minutes of a friendly and gradually being introduced into the team he might have got 50 caps. Debuts can go badly wrong if not handled right.

    McClean was delighted with the game, and the reception he received, and all concerned were left hungry for more. Perfect start for the lad.
    a lot of sense here i feel particularly in relation to McClean

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    Dunphy is becoming increasingly annoying. Yes things under Trap arent 100% what we would like but then again that frustration is tempered by the fact we have only lost 2 competitive games in four years!!! that we didnt just play a meaningless friendly the other night before a quiet summer, that we have so much to look forward to this summer, that we are organised and hard to beat, although not very pretty to watch. That as a squad we have far more options now than four years ago...........i could go on.

    On balance, clearly Trap wins out. No manager will ever do exactly what everyone wants.

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    He is not owed anything – He is a regular first eleven EPL central midfielder with more game time than the rest the them put together
    I’d say that earns him at least 45mins in a friendly just to see what he can do. Oh and I don’t buy the “he was off his game in Wigan’s
    Last outing”. We have had plenty of players over the years that haven’t produced for club but excel for country. The lad has a poor game
    so lets leave at home. At least he gets on the pitch every week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunners View Post
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    He is not owed anything – He is a regular first eleven EPL central midfielder with more game time than the rest the them put together
    I’d say that earns him at least 45mins in a friendly just to see what he can do. Oh and I don’t buy the “he was off his game in Wigan’s
    Last outing”. We have had plenty of players over the years that haven’t produced for club but excel for country. The lad has a poor game
    so lets leave at home. At least he gets on the pitch every week.
    eh, no he's not.
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