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    Big time bottlers !! Another weird team selection. Why did he leave Foley on for so long? totally useless(like most of the team to be fair). Not sure what Scully has to do to get the sack. POS certainly dose'nt listen to the fans thats for sure.
    Absolutely gutted - again!!!!
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    I just one to say before anything else, fair play to Waterford. Four wins from four against any opposition is seriously impressive.

    My father and I were wondering why we didn't break 1'000 at what was a big game, but the answer was obvious very fast. This was a truly awful game of football, and both sides are culpable. Whatever about the result, the game as a spectacle was the worst I've seen all season. So many long balls over the top, wayward shots, **** poor accuracy, inability to keep the ball down, bad tackles, a whistle happy ref, throw after throw after throw, free after free after free. The first five minutes of the second half,m as the two teams traded throw ins down the left, everyone around me on the hill was talking amongst themselves, on their phones, desperate to relieve the boredom.

    The quality of this game was simply atrocious. Combined with the result, the incentive to come back and watch Limerick is very small.

    So, the actual game. Limerick just played with a total lack of confidence, terrified of losing, spending so much time defending deep. Gaffney and Foley were frequently out of position when the balls came in, and did very little with the small amount of service they were able to control. Gaffney especially went for goal twice in the first half when a bit of patience would have served him better, his 35 yard volley being the best example.

    The midfield had major trouble making any impact on the gamer with the ref blowing up so much. The defence was actually decent enough all game in shutting Waterford down, and up to the goal Ryan seemed confident and assured. The red card didn't actually seem to matter, since Limerick were playing so deep anyway. They were besieged at times, really struggling to clear the ball and hold it, showcasing a serious lack of composure.

    But it was all so aimless and dour. Limerick seemed despondent and really out of sorts in the second half, miscontrolling, passing poorly, not making any opportunities worth talking about. Kluciar was played badly out of position on the right wing and struggled, and none of the subs were able to make much of an impact. From where I was standing the red card looked legitimate. Lunged in when he didn't have to. It was a dirty enough game, Kluciar got cleaned out around 10 minutes in not far from where I was standing and the ref did nothing.

    Yes, Limerick are still top and yes Longford dropped points and yes we have a few easier games coming up and yes we should still go up. But I have no confidence in Scully at all. I'm sure some will jump up to defend him but I really think he has to go. He simply is not getting the most out of his squad, is playing people out of position and must take his fair share of blame in turning what should have been an easy enough run-in into a very hard slog. This Limerick team, playing with such a lack of verve and commitment, will get eaten alive if they make it to the top tier. I really think Scully has little future at this club, and I just wonder what it will take to see him relieved of his responsibilites. I suppose it seems strange to say that, but this squad should be so much better than this. Scully has had years to get them playing at a higher level and has had an easy division to do it in. He's not doing a good enough job.

    The manager isn't doing his job to the full, but the players have to do some work themselves. They simply looked drained at times, directionless. I don't know how else to put it, except to say they simply don't seem to care enough.

    Maybe we can convince Paul O'Brien to make the switch over. He's done great things, after such an awful start, with this Waterford team. Worthy winners, though I can't help but note it wasn't so much a great performance from them tonight, than a truly awful showing from Limerick.
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    [QUOTE=bluewhitearmy;1622352]Really id never have known.

    It still doesn't stop the fact that dropping Bradely and playing a centre back on the wing are 2 unnecessary and stupid decisions.
    I never said we wouldn't win but he has to stop with these stupid changes for changes sake.[/QUOT
    I never said you said he wouldnt win the league slow down and read my post, scully is the manager after a poor result tonight we are still on top and i still think we will win the league, i could be mistaken but hes job is too get us promoted.

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    An incident summed up the lack of direction, confusion and responsibility in the squad and management.

    Scully shouted at Ryan to give the ball the Shane. There was a man near Shane so the whole sideline were shouting no. Again he shouted louder to give it out to Shane. Ryan gave it Shane who was closed down by the player right beside him and his clearence was blocked down. Scully In turn ****ed Barry out of it for giving it Shane. Trying to blame players and not take any responsibility.

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    [QUOTE=Minesapint;1623087]
    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Really id never have known.

    It still doesn't stop the fact that dropping Bradely and playing a centre back on the wing are 2 unnecessary and stupid decisions.
    I never said we wouldn't win but he has to stop with these stupid changes for changes sake.[/QUOT
    I never said you said he wouldnt win the league slow down and read my post, scully is the manager after a poor result tonight we are still on top and i still think we will win the league, i could be mistaken but hes job is too get us promoted.
    His job is to make the right decisions and get us promoted. We are top only by the skin of our teeth an due to mistakes for other teams. If we ha the likes of Shels, cork and even Monaghan still in this division they would be out of sight by now.

    I don't know about anyone else but I don't want it coming down to the last few games hoping for a bit of luck or relying on results elsewhere

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    Loose to longford, win the other 4 and we still finish 1st. Of course that would still represent a pathetic performance on the season in this division. Playing that style of football reduces the game to a 50/50 lucky dip. Great if you have a poor team but nothing but stupid if you have what is considered the best squad in the division. Tactical genious. He will never go before the end of the season, just hope we get up by the skin of our teeth and find a good manager in the off season.

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    Scully talking about the players holding there nerve its that clown that Is doing his best to cost us promotion with idiotic team choices its beyond belief that he picks a centre half on wing its mental again he is worrying more about other team than his owe what has he to do to get sacked everyone can see it bar the people who makes the decisions

    AS for Jeff judge tackle a disgrace reckless which was one of 3 or 4 things that cost us points.

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    ****e manager once again resulting in a ****e performance

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    According to Mike Ahern on Facebook the team have been locked into the dressing room for nearly an hour and half.

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    The Kluciar/right wing thing just baffles me though. He tried, god help him, but it just wasn't his position.

    It was a really bad atmosphere in the place by the end. I know one person, an old time fan, whose stopped going to games because of that and the poor quality on display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    According to Mike Ahern on Facebook the team have been locked into the dressing room for nearly an hour and half.
    Wonder if Scully is bollocking out the team, the team is bollocking out Scully or is Pat O'Sullivan bollocking out both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    According to Mike Ahern on Facebook the team have been locked into the dressing room for nearly an hour and half.
    SHould lock himself into hospital ward 5b

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Wonder if Scully is bollocking out the team, the team is bollocking out Scully or is Pat O'Sullivan bollocking out both?
    Na seen Pat O S leave about 10 min after game.

    All any manager would have to do with our squad is pick the right team and let them play Scully has no idea how to do that. We will be disgraced with him as manager if we get up.

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    Mirrow image of previous seasons under scully senior. Lost 17 of the 21 points against his main rivals Longford and Waterford. Totally unacceptable. 31 players at his disposal and he picks another (remember Corey played in harps on the right) center half on the right wing, obviously afraid of Frosty bombing forward ;( Next week he will do what he has done for the previous 3 seasons (this is his forth rem) and flood the team with Kids to save himself. Himself and the dog were afraid to walk off the pitch tonight

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    it was hard work watching that tonight,very poor performance ,hardly a decent effort on goal,no pattern to our game,totally reliant on ..yawn...gaffeneys long throws to score,poor team spirit,no creativity...etc etc etc,ya we will still PROBABLY win the league but we are limping badly towards it with a squad and budget that should have won this league by now.got to say waterford played what football was played and dempsey and white were dominent and early second half signs suggested they were hungry for the win ,a great team effort from them.scully and his 7 assistents have some questions to answer though that will have to wait till seasons end.the choirs answer in the shed tonight wont solve it..kerley..have they short memories?

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    Results
    Fri 31/08/12
    Wexford Youths 4 - 1 SD Galway
    Athlone Town 1 - 1 Longford Town
    Limerick 0 - 1 Waterford United
    Mervue United 1 - 1 Finn Harps

    Table
    1 Limerick 23 50 (GD + 25)
    2 Longford Town 23 47 (GD + 13)
    3 Waterford United 23 46 (GD + 13)

    Fixtures
    Date Home Away Venue
    7 Sep 2012 7:45pm Limerick v Mervue United Jackman Park
    7 Sep 2012 7:45pm SD Galway v Waterford United Terryland Park
    8 Sep 2012 7:30pm Longford Town v Wexford Youths Flancare Park
    21 Sep 2012 7:45pm Waterford United v Longford Town Regional Sports Centre
    21 Sep 2012 7:45pm SD Galway v Limerick Terryland Park
    28 Sep 2012 7:45pm Limerick v Athlone Town Jackman Park
    29 Sep 2012 7:30pm Longford Town v SD Galway Flancare Park
    29 Sep 2012 7:45pm Finn Harps v Waterford United Finn Park
    5 Oct 2012 7:45pm Waterford United v Mervue United Regional Sports Centre
    6 Oct 2012 7:30pm Longford Town v Limerick Flancare Park
    13 Oct 2012 7:45pm Athlone Town v Waterford United Lissywollen
    13 Oct 2012 7:45pm Finn Harps v Longford Town Finn Park
    13 Oct 2012 7:45pm Limerick v Wexford Youths Jackman Park


    As it stands LFC still require a maximum of 12 points to win the league (GD is worth a point) and if Waterford and Longford draw against each other in a few weeks, LFC only require 10pts from their last remaining 5 games.....
    Last edited by abbeyvale; 01/09/2012 at 12:31 AM.
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    For everyone having a moan about Gaffney's throw ins... You would be mental not to use them. You basically get a corner when your 25 to 30 yards from goal. The only thing that is criminal is that we don't score more from them. That surely must come from whoever organises the set pieces.

    Some of the players look like they don't want to be there at all... They're just collecting their money every week and not bothered about the club.

    The goal was absolutely shocking... For all of them to switch off like that and let them take a quick free kick is beyond belief.

    Thought Barry Ryan was very good tonight, should have been more only for him.

    Don't know what the story is with right wing, but I'm sure he's had a reason for playing a natural right full up there tonight. A few injuries to people maybe?

    I put more blame of the players than the manager... I heard him telling themto stop going long. I heard Judge and Gamble telling the defenders to stop going long. When they drop in to get it, and it goes long instead. There's such a huge gap left between strikers and centre midfield that they've no chance of picking up any second balls, even when Foley or Gaffney win a header.
    That's why Dempsey looks like a superstar every game against us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post
    SHould lock himself into hospital ward 5b
    A bit personal

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    No kingpin there was no injuries tonight. Bradley, Judge, Cian Collins, O Brien and even O'Leary all can play on the wing or at least could start to accommodate the likes of brosnan to push out to the opposite wing. If we had a rake of injuries I'd understand him playing a rb/cb there but we don't. Felt bad for klucair being thrown out there. He worked hard but it's not his position. Frost was able to handle him handy enough.

    Scully got a good bit of abuse after the game when going into the dressing rooms but I can almost understand it. Only so many times people will pay hard earned money to be served up crap and disappointment. There probably won't be a sinner at next weeks match. Nothing to convince them back, it's against mervue and it's clashing with a game in thomond park. The recipe for a 300 attendance max.
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    truly terrible, terrible for 1st half it was wateford who were hunger and much more confident, i think the team are getting really fed up with Scully making stupid changes just when players are starting to settle into the team, we were lucky to get to half time scoreless. Same again 2nd half for first 15 but only after that we started playing, taught we played better with 10 men, Scully out

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