QuoteShir can't we just start a team ourselves? Foot.ie United? How hard can it be? We'll play out of the Aviva. Or Terryland.
€180,000 budget to finish last in the 1st division and tahts only paying Players expenses.THe travel bill for Provincal clubs is huge especially as they would be running an u19 team as well.
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Shir can't we just start a team ourselves? Foot.ie United? How hard can it be? We'll play out of the Aviva. Or Terryland.
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Or Thomond ParkOriginally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Roddy Collins thinks it would be a perfect fit. Quote, "Sure, they're always talking about me"
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
Have the circumstances that led to those teams failing changed? If not, what reason is there to suggest it could work this time around?
I'd be lying if I said I knew the underlying reasons why Kilkenny, Kildare, Carlow, Portlaoise, Tralee and even Monaghan don't have teams in the LOI structure, but that wasn't really my point. Drogheda, Cork, Galway, Cork again, Derry, etc. failed because of gross financial mismanagement. The first assumption in their cases isn't that those towns are fundamentally unsuitable for LOI football, so why should it be the first assumption when we're talking about other population centres of a similar size?
But that's not people's first assumption. These were small, ambitious clubs that nevertheless found competing in a business environment very tough due to low levels of interest from locals, the presence of more popular sports proving a greater draw for players, sponsors and playing pitches, and a completely unhelpful governing body that made it more difficult for a small club to survive at senior level. Unless any of these realities have changed (keep an eye on this ash fungus epidemic for hurling's future prospects), it's not going to be any easier for these clubs to survive now than before.
Seriously... That's what we would call the team? Really? Nothing else at all comes to mind?
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Us ground share...No Way!!
Unless we actually play out of Termonbarry Park..then no, I can't think of anything else.
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A colleague of mine is one of the honchos in Portlaoise. He told me their foray into the U21's a few years ago nearly broke them, not to mention the extra work/hassle
Founder, President and Sole Member of the Tipperary Galway United Supporters Club
The more I think about the clubs that have had to pack up and leave the league the more I appreciate those who have put so much into keeping LTFC going over the years. Both work and cash. The club is in good health at the moment, now if we could only get out of this damned First Division.
Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.
there was a great piece from gareth maher in todays mail on Cobh Ramblers.. he seems very confident that Cobh Ramblers will get back in for next season.
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
That sounds like an interesting read if anyone can put it on here.
Yeah, wouldn't mind seeing that if its online.
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Hope Cobh can make a comeback. Is the GAA very strong in Cobh can anyone tell ?
The gaa club in cobh is very well run as far as I can tell but tbh they haven't had much success, the hurling team were relegated to junior status a couple of seasons ago and the gaelic football side of things operates at junior level too which for a town of its size is not good.
They seem to be placing a lot of emphasis on the underage set up which seems to be doing alright.
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Cobh Ramblers could be re-admitted to the First Division next season as talks continue over the club’s outstanding debts.
COBH RAMBLERS ARE in line for a return to Airtricity League football next season. The mid-season collapse of Monaghan United has left the unappealing scenario of just seven teams competing in the First Division in 2013. That void could be filled by Ramblers and talks with the FAI and players’ body the PFAI are ongoing with a view to granting the Cork club a licence.
The news comes following a report todaythat the plan to create unify Galway’s existing teams into a a single club will not happen until 2014 at the earliest. The Galway City Tribune reports that Galway United Supporters Trust (GUST) will not be granted a licence for next season. Ramblers, who number former Irish internationals Roy Keane and Stephen Ireland among their past players, were demoted to the “A” Championship in 2009 as the Independent Club Licensing Committee sought to crack down on financial irregularities within the league. Although they were optimistic that they would be green-lighted for a return in 2012, the FAI pressed ahead with an eight-team structure, rejecting the applications from Cobh and from Tralee Dynamos. It is understood that Cobh still have outstanding debts in the region of €24,000 owed to former players and others, and it is this sum which will be the key issue in negotiations. Speaking toTheScore.ie, PFAI chief executive Stephen McGuinness confirmed that discussions were ongoing with a number of the league’s former clubs but declined to identify the teams involved.
“We’re in discussions with the FAI at the moment and I would be surprised if there’s not more teams in the First Division next season,” McGuinness said.
“We’re in discussions with them currently on some teams that owe money to former players and that might be a stumbling block to them coming into the league. We’re in discussions with the FAI to try and overcome some of those problems to ensure that there is another one or two teams in the division. That ultimately will give employment to some of our members and also make that league more attractive for supporters and sponsors and people in general. He added: “With seven teams, you don’t need to be a rocket scientists to see that it doesn’t work. It’s in our interest to get teams that may have fallen out in the last couple of years back in, but that has to be done on the premise that monies that are owed to former players are honoured.
“We would be open enough to discuss them with the FAI and with the individual clubs involved. Hopefully we’ll see more than seven teams in that division in the next couple of weeks.”
The rumour mill locally has been touting that Kilkenny City will be back in the league in the next 2yrs but the biggest stumbling block is also the clubs biggest asset imo, Buckley Park. The grounds and pitch (whilst a little sloped) are in very good order still and more than capable for a LOI team. The issue is the grounds are 3 miles outside the city. Whilst it's not a lot, it probably cuts exposure to the club by half. You also have none of the footfall of a local residential area(s) nearby. Die hard fans are the lifeblood of every club and I'd know quiet a few people who went to pretty much every game but I think it's location is probably off putting to a casual fan, and a smaller club like that needs to be accessible to all really.
Whilst the county and city on a whole is hurling mad, soccer is easily the number 2 sport. It's pretty much if you don't play one it's mostly cos you play the other. For such a small pool the KDL has won the Oscar Traynor trophy 5 times which shows not everyone here is a small ball fanatic.
Take for instance this Sunday will be the 1st league meeting of Kilkennys biggest junior clubs and biggest rivals, Freebooters Vs. Evergreen. The weather will probably have a bearing on attendance but it will still draw approx. 250-300 people to it (easily double on a dry spring/autumn evening). Only half of those will be directly involved or supporters of either club meaning the other half are just people looking for a decent game to watch. When the reverse fixture is played there will be probably only 100-150 people at it (depending on time of year and whats a stake by then maybe). For anyone that knows Kilkenny, Freebooters play beside the cinema which is right in the heart of the town, basically where the commercial aspect ends and the residential side of the town begins. Evergreen play at a new complex 5 miles outside the town hence what will in all likely be a big drop in the numbers attending. It's those interested in the game cos it was local that won't/can't go.
The point I'm making is that I couldn't see Kilkenny City returning to the league without a ground somewhere near or in the center of the town (Scanlon Park is the only remotely viable site if even). The flip side of it is, I don't ever see Kilkenny City returning to the league and not being in Buckley Park either.
One saving grace could be that the KDL's own pitch is up at the back of Buckley Park and now has a floodlit pitch installed. A lot of the local junior clubs are using the pitch for training so it could well be decent exposure and free advertising directly to the its target audience without any cost except for a few advertising boards for kick-off times, next game etc.
Would love to see City back in the league in the near future but with a few locals in the side - Pat Scully might have done a good job with nearly a complete Dublin team but it felt soulless supporting them. Not sure how every other club feels about having no locals in the side but from a part of the world where the parish rule rules all, it's hard not to crave some sort of attachment.
Splitting a future expanded 1st Division into North/South or East/West may be the only way clubs like City could sustain a team without being on the verge of bankruptcy every year, but that's a different discussion entirely.
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Personally, I'd love to see Kilkenny back. Fantastic little ground, great memories of our last promotion season down there. Lovely city, great place to spend a weekend, lovely people.
It's a real shame however, that I just don't see it happening. The only way forward for Kilkenny city is if they applied to be part of the league and ran an all amateur side with local players from the likes of Freebooters and Evergreen.
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