The real issue of not having 3 clubs is down to there not being enough players to have one competitive team, let alone 3. Last year there were only 2 teams and they were the 2 worst in the First Division by a fair way.
Mervue seem to have made a fair stab at establishing themselves as a LoI club but only represent a tiny area of the city and haven't really tried to develop further. Whether this is sustainable is questionable.
Salthill Devon appear to have little to no interest in the LoI as a whole. Look at their website any weekend and you'll struggle to find any mention of the LoI side and no promotion of games. Last season they said they'd have a 1 year trial with their LoI wing rebranded as SD Galway and playing in Terryland. They put this proposal to their members a week after their opening game to the season.
During the season they didn't promote the games around the city and didn't seem to have any appetite at building a supporter base.
To me it seems Salthill are in the league because Mervue joined. Now they probably feel that by hanging in there they can get some sort of pay-off as the FAI will need them in agreement to facilitate a new club.
Bang on the money JC. As for GUST not having a clue how to run a Loi club absolute rubbish The biggest fundraisers and hardest working volunteers who have been involved in LOI soccer in Galway are still invoved with GUST the people who actually give a ****e about LOI Football in Galway and are not in the swinging micky competition the other 2 clubs indulge in.Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
The nlec should have 3members from the clubs on it and the biggest investor in the loi are the fans
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Simpler days...
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I wish Kilkenny city could come back..
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
5 of the 7 rows has a club that is now defunct or permanently damaged... Pretty damning.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Neither club "joined" the league. Both are in the league, because they "won" the A League when the reward was a FD place. They met the criteria to be in it on the pitch, and are in it by right. That's a simple fact, yet several years later, Galway still can't get their heads around it.
Mervue and Salthill may not get great gates, but neither do UCD in a 5-club city. The main problem is theoretical, that Galway think all their problems are over if their upstart rivals go back to where they were. That isn't going to happen, nor should it.
I'm not saying I don't want Galway in the league. I am saying if they want to be in it, that shouldn't be at the expense of anyone else.
No1 I have no affiliation to Salthill despite who you think I am, and it's just another sad indictment of the persecution complex that GUST people seem to have and feel that the whole world is out to get them, instead of building a creditable bid for a LOI team you're more concerned at taking potshots and making up lies about what the other 2 clubs have done
No2 Whatever deal you're talking about is probably in your head like alot of things
No3 You still haven't responded to what I said earlier about what was in the proposed deal for the merger between Mervue/GUST and Salthill/GUST, proof of the debts that GUST have
But GUST don't have the opportunity to "win" their way in to the league. So the situation is not the same. Apples and Oranges.
Both clubs "joined" the A Championship. Happy now?
The independent review commissioned by the FAI have said there should be one club, so at least one of the incumbents will have to leave.
The debate now is, what form should the club take.
The proposals were:
1) Salthill Devon
2) Mervue United
3) Galway United FC
4) A merger of 1) and 2)
5) A new club
It also indicated that either 3) or 5) were the most viable options.
GUST are hoping that they'll be accepted as 5) but there is a long way to go to prove to the FAI that this should be the case.
The report also recommended that the board of a new club should be made up of members of all parties so that everyone is represented.
These are all fair recommendations in my view.
There are far too many people self-absorbed to see that this whole process is for the betterment of LoI football in Galway. The club to benefit most from this whole mess are now champions. Is it such a fanciful dream that a United Galway club could eventually be too?
I'd like to hear Tribesman2's thoughts on this report and how he sees it best implemented.
we werent late. Don't know where you are getting that from, the FORAS application was in with plenty of time, we entered ours as a backup plan in case TNB wouldn't deal with us, we eventually managed to agree a deal to take CCIF ltd from him but too late and the FAI rejected the CCIFL license application and accepted the FORAS one.
I don't believe this is true either. FORAS were running the match day at Turners Cross for most of the season under TNB.
No. That was a non-league/reserve division, which has since been scrapped. The P/FD league is 19 clubs atm.
It's not about the betterment of football in Galway, but what's best for the LOI in general. Whatever report is produced, the bare facts are as it stands, Mervue and Salthill are fully entitled to play LOI Senior Football in the P/FD. Galway are not.The independent review commissioned by the FAI have said there should be one club.
There are far too many people self-absorbed to see that this whole process is for the betterment of LoI football in Galway. The club to benefit most from this whole mess are now champions. Is it such a fanciful dream that a United Galway club could eventually be too?
There's no money in LOI football. What comes in, goes straight back out, so how viable clubs are is much of a muchness. But we can't afford to lose the current number of clubs we already have, just to accommodate someone else.
Juvenile Membership for one of the clubs has gone from E50 per season to E150 per season. Only for members of my family are so heavily involved with the club, their sons would have moved to their local clubs instead of tracking into town 3 times a week.
But GUST members have been running the matchday in Terryland for a number of years the did the stewarding ,produced and sold the programme,did the pa , and all the things needed to keep the club afloat,run golf classics race nights the lotto etc...... the only things the former directors did was drink tea at half time that the gust supporters also made
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Good to see you got a post off at the first time of asking go MyPost.Nicely done
Everyone in LOI realises that there is no money to be made from the leauge,its more an investment for the youngsters etc so what you have to ask is,is this been done in the Galway area?Is the FAI providing a good and fair service over there? Answer=NO or partly yes,its polarised.The FAI are doing no service to the area by having it that way because it puts lads and gershas off from playing and drives them to other more structered codes were they can all play together if theyr'e good enough
.If it was the GAA they would have it sorted in a heartbeat.
Get your junior clubs like Salthill and Mervue and all around but all feeding into one team,a Galway side with the blessings of all around,a real Galway United side.
Up to them of course to get together and get it working but it wouldnt be a job for the fair hearted to be taking on.
GUST are doing what they see is best for the memory of Galway United FC, and a history they will latch onto (like other clubs who will remain namless), though what Bullit has posited is excellent - and something he himself would see working in Louth (in GAA of course). Where clubs are unable to field independently in underage, they club together and get it done. There are still some who'll bitch and complain that it wasn't like this in the old days, the old days being the era they cling to in 1950-9 when they got a good new generation mixing with an older and unfortunate crop of quality players. Why couldn't all 3 clubs (MU, SDG and GUST) play Junior and field a Galway County team in the LOI? Okay, so it'd knock 1 club off the league roster and a few noses out of joint, but it would make sense, allow the sport to grow and develop and put the weight of resources behind one solid outfit.
But would I write the same if it was about my club and Drogheda and/or Monaghan, I don't know, I'd consider it and at least try to be objective. But if I were one of the clubs who had solid under age set ups and a local rival club, who'd gone bang and had more dodgy deals in their recent past than a UN security council member, would I want to be associated with them, regardless of the new and improved image being put forward by genuine supporters? Probably not, no. I'd rather my own little club muddle along, develop young players, provide a community service and grow.
I sincerely hope GUST can get a team accepted into the league, that they can run teams to the youngest age group and grow the club past their two current rivals to catch Harps and pluck at Sligo's tail, the LOI needs to grow sensibly, and maybe by putting an (almost) amateur team into the 1st Division Galway can do this. The club have to be given great thanks for showing how different codes can work together and put a genuinely beautiful part of Ireland on a different sporting stage, but this being LOI and Ireland, it'll be a long day before a sensible meeting of minds can happen.
My bad, sorry
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"Homer Simpson, smiling politely."
The majority of people on the mc of gust would have been involved in running Gufc from 10 up 25 years so the idea that's been purported on here that we don't know how to run a loi club is totally false . In the last 2 years of Gufc loi tenure gust would have contributed over €300,000 towards the running of the club. Of all the stakeholders involved in the implementation group gust is the only one that has held open meetings for their members to let them know what is going on and taking on their opinions and decisions .
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
i do not think that stating that Galway has not got enough local playing talent to support 3 LOI teams is a valid point. Most clubs bring in playing talent from outside their geographical catchment area to make themselves more competitive, best example would be Sligo. There was two Galway players playing in the cup final a week ago, two (3) other Galway players play for this year's league champions, why was this ? and why did thay not play for Mervue and Salthill. I think the main reason is that the two LOI clubs could not offer them they same amount of money they can get elsewhere and also that the two clubs do not offer the same lads any prospect of playing at the highest level in Ireland in the future. The number of clubs in Galway does not matter, and I think both Mervue and Salthill should stay in the league for as long as they want or can. What we need in Galway is a club that can get enough public support and therefore money that they can offer the decent players from the west wages that will keep them at Terryland and also attract a few good outsiders in order to be competitive, i.e. have arealistic chance of making the Setanta Cup/europe and win one of the cups. The GUST project is the only hope for this, but sadly it does not look like that is going to happen as the FAI seem to be against it.
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