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    In fairness he said its been discussed for 2 years. It clearly wouldn't be discussed for 2 years if they said "listen we need 2 leagues for UEFA end of story..."

    So either the FAI only found out at the end (entirely plausible) or the Athlone guy is mistaken (as he certainly is with the co-efficient)
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    In the 2012 Statutes of UEFA, Article 51:

    "A clubs entitlement to take part in a domestic league championship shall depend on principally on sporting merit. A club will qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or by being promoted or relegated to another at the end of the season."

    While I'm personally for a single division, if UEFA rules don't permit it, its them I'd have the beef with, not the FAI.
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    That doesn't preclude one division leagues

    "A club will qualify for a domestic league championship by remaining in a certain division or..."

    That bit before or means they're ok.
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    To look at this another way, if the FAI need a second tier, you'd think they'd show some interest in making it viable. They haven't made any moves here, so that doesn't seem to be the case.

    While there may be some mistakes in what the Athlone Chair has said, the overall message is correct and very concerning for the league overall- that basically we're approaching a point were running a division one club is getting more and more difficult (and perhaps soon impossible without financial backing) to do on a viable basis. And this is endangering some good clubs that are not currently doing a lot wrong- which is a very worrying situation for the league overall. Especially given the rate at which we lose clubs without such pressures. We need a first division that is viable for clubs, and that can provide promoted teams that consistently have a chance of holding their own in the premier- and currently we're getting further away from that.
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    Lower the damn prices FAI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Lower the damn prices FAI.
    They are not obligated to respond to this, even if they read it or not. Contact them directly if you want it to be notice. For the record, i dont think there is any harm in asking.
    Last edited by A face; 21/09/2012 at 11:16 AM.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    It should never have been offered as an alternative option if this was the case.
    Sure was it not FB clubs who are desperate to get out of the FD that have been whining about it. Was that not how it got on the agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    They are not obligated to respond to this, even if they read it or not. Contact them directly if you want it to be notice. For the record, i dont think there is any harm in asking.
    Pointless adventure I'd reckon. Emailled them a few times on different subjects and I've never once got a response from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Pointless adventure I'd reckon. Emailled them a few times on different subjects and I've never once got a response from them.
    Jebus, what were the subjects? Cos i have always got a reply to be fair, admittedly sometimes it could be a week later but you'll get a reply.
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    Jebus, what were the subjects? Cos i have always got a reply to be fair, admittedly sometimes it could be a week later but you'll get a reply.
    Usually, in fairness to them, I'm b!tching about something, be it costs of referees, size of division or general lack of interest from the FAI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Usually, in fairness to them, I'm b!tching about something, be it costs of referees, size of division or general lack of interest from the FAI.
    Same as me really .... I don't use language and i try and give possible solutions etc. rather than just sticking the knife in but other than that its normally giving out about something alright
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Most organisations of that type (well, I know for certain RTE, but I assume its the same for others) have policies in place where they are obligated to reply to any letter that isn't abusive in nature.
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    Never really been abusive as such, but I do like to point out failures. Especially when it's the FAI.
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    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/irish...y-league-blog/

    Good article from Alan Cawley on rte website about the future and format of the league.

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    Newry City??? Anyone else hear anything?

    Few mentions of them applying to the LOI on the IL forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    Newry City??? Anyone else hear anything?

    Few mentions of them applying to the LOI on the IL forum.
    Are they on the bucky? I'd have their ground all the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy View Post
    Newry City??? Anyone else hear anything?

    Few mentions of them applying to the LOI on the IL forum.
    As I said there...


    Based on the following from the Licencing Manual, on which basis could they apply?

    4. LICENCE APPLICANT AND LICENCE
    4.1. DEFINITION OF LICENCE APPLICANTS
    4.1.1. PRINCIPLE
    The licence applicant is defined as being the legal entity fully responsible for the football team participating
    in the FAI League of Ireland club competitions and which is either:
    a) any legal entity according to national law and/or FAI statutes, which is member of the
    FAI and/or the League of Ireland (hereafter, registered member), or
    b) any legal entity according to national law and/or FAI statutes, which has a contractual
    relationship to a registered member (hereafter, company).
    And if they could apply, their expression of interest would have had to have been received by the FAI 4 days ago.

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    Ah Mr_Parker. I have no doubt you know the rules well. But this is LOI licensing. Anything could happen.

    And the last club that got in despite missing the deadline were also from across the border.
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    So just who has expressed an interest? Tralee? Cobh? Carlow? Anybody? Nobody?
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