Clubs divided over future LOI format?

[Dodge]

Now now, no call for that. You enjoy your little slap-down's don't you?

Very much so when i see cry babys wailing. The facts are that Waterford will take a place in next season 12 tam premier if offered. They won't take a place in the 7 team first. So what happens if it continues and they're relegated?

Whilethey might advocate a 16 team premier, they won't say no to a 12 team spot.

[Louth4sam]

next season could spell disaster for a club like longford or waterford should they not be promoted.

Can't see Dundalk surviving if we are relegated to a six team division.

[gustavo]

[Tribesman2]

As long as Mervue and Salthill are there then LOI is still in Galway though.

You say "We are willing to work with anyone to see this happen but as of yet we are the only Club willing to sit down and talk."but why should either of them talk to ye or try and help ye after the way members of GUST have slagged them off in public? Ye were very quick to point out anything negative ye got the chance to and now expect them to help ye out. Why should they do anything for ye?

Precisely

They pay their bills, they have integrity (well Mervue do anyway), they have fantastic underage setups and facilities, they don't sign contracts that they don't and won't see through, and most of all in my opinion they have the experience of running a club for years and years, and that's not just a LOI team, it's over 20 juvenile teams and 2 junior teams as well.

GUST have one year experience running a football club, a year which culminated in the end for Galway United. With that track record, I think it's kind of obvious why the FAI didn't accept their licence last year. The GUST lads seem to have missed this point.

[oriel]

Maybe the FAI will have another look at this if say only 6 teams are willing to participate in the FD. What then if another club follows the suggestion by Waterford (if they dont get promoted), and suddenly only 4 teams remain.Its too fragile to have clubs in that situation of threatening to pull out. Mons did it easy enough after 3 months, whats stoppping others doing it pre season?

I wouldnt rule out an EGM at a later stage with a single division back on the table.

Even if we surived the play off (or somehow escaped it) I would still be in a favour of an expanded single division, not sure how many teams though. 16 perhaps, 15 home and away, keep it simple.

[NeverFeltBetter]

I thought the plan (someone mentioned it in some other First Division thread) might be to supplement the First Division with top tier reserve sides, ala the A Championship/Spanish system?

Certainly, they do not appear to be any rumblings of any non-league club seriously considering an application (aside from GUST).

Who are the even likely ones anyway? Tralee, Cobh I suppose. Fanad? Carlow? Castlebar? Anyone else who could possibly survive in the LOI?

[White Horse]

This plan will see some long established clubs closing.

It is not possible to survive economically in a 6 team first division.

[adamd164]

Certainly, they do not appear to be any rumblings of any non-league club seriously considering an application (aside from GUST).

Who are the even likely ones anyway? Tralee, Cobh I suppose. Fanad? Carlow? Castlebar? Anyone else who could possibly survive in the LOI?

I believe Cobh and Tralee both indicated after being rejected for this year's league that they will try again next year. Along with GUST if all are approved you would be looking at a 10 team first division.

[adamd164]

This plan will see some long established clubs closing.

It is not possible to survive economically in a 6 team first division.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how could the first division only have 6 teams (even if no new clubs were allowed in)?

[bullit]

I believe Cobh and Tralee both indicated after being rejected for this year's league that they will try again next year. Along with GUST if all are approved you would be looking at a 10 team first division.

All including GUST would inflict huge harm on the leauge.Three teams in Galway is not viable in any way shape or form and that is the bottom line.
The FAI can't be that blind?

[adamd164]

All including GUST would inflict huge harm on the leauge.Three teams in Galway is not viable in any way shape or form and that is the bottom line.
The FAI can't be that blind?

Huge harm on a division that already includes Salthill and Mervue? Have you been to Drom!?

[bullit]

Huge harm on a division that already includes Salthill and Mervue? Have you been to Drom!?

Yup.I don't know what you're try'in to tell me here?

[White Horse]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but how could the first division only have 6 teams (even if no new clubs were allowed in)?

I'm assuming only one team from Galway. Even if there were two teams from Galway and the league comprised 7 teams, it still isn't viable.

That is fine, if the objective is to concentrate on football in big cities/towns and leave the rest of the country to the GAA.

[Macy]

I thought the plan (someone mentioned it in some other First Division thread) might be to supplement the First Division with top tier reserve sides, ala the A Championship/Spanish system?

Certainly, they do not appear to be any rumblings of any non-league club seriously considering an application (aside from GUST).

Who are the even likely ones anyway? Tralee, Cobh I suppose. Fanad? Carlow? Castlebar? Anyone else who could possibly survive in the LOI?

I think people saw "entities" and ran with that meaning reserve sides too. Could also mean brand new clubs, as per Kildare County, rather than a simple promotion of an existing team. It may turn out to be the case, simple because the idiots read this thread and think it's a great idea - I don't see anything from the FAI to suggest that's what they are thinking now.*

If teams that applied last year (but were denied a licence) get in this year, it will be interesting what improvements they've made. Or how much the criteria is reduced. Whilst I am 100% sure a 6 or 7 team premier isn't viable, I'm not convinced parachuting clubs in not up to the required standard just to make up the numbers will automatically make it viable either. The whole thing is a mess that needs long term, and radical, solutions.

*not that the idea of reserve sides in it is idiotic, but that the administrators won't have thought of it.

[prince20]

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-3234965.html

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...324200228.html

[Jofspring]

While it would be great to have Galway United back it is very hard to argue with the fact that salthill and Mervue have conducted themselves well in keepng their clubs running. Mervue in particular can be a tough team to play and are doing it on very limited resources. Until there is proof otherwise it's hard to see how they can be convinced to get together with GUST. The only thing they can offer is a bigger support base but if salthill and Mervues names were to be gone and they played under the name Galway United or GUST then they may as well just pull out altogether and let GUST go it alone.

[bluewhitearmy]

]I think people saw "entities" and ran with that meaning reserve sides too.[/B] Could also mean brand new clubs, as per Kildare County, rather than a simple promotion of an existing team. It may turn out to be the case, simple because the idiots read this thread and think it's a great idea - I don't see anything from the FAI to suggest that's what they are thinking now.*

If teams that applied last year (but were denied a licence) get in this year, it will be interesting what improvements they've made. Or how much the criteria is reduced. Whilst I am 100% sure a 6 or 7 team premier isn't viable, I'm not convinced parachuting clubs in not up to the required standard just to make up the numbers will automatically make it viable either. The whole thing is a mess that needs long term, and radical, solutions.

*not that the idea of reserve sides in it is idiotic, but that the administrators won't have thought of it.

Seen as the reserve sides thing came out before the FAI gave any statement involving "entities" i doubt that is what happened.

[A face]

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/soc...on-567526.html

[Dodge]

*not that the idea of reserve sides in it is idiotic, but that the administrators won't have thought of it.

I was talking to someone who should know, and the reserve team thing has been on the table for a while. Most FD teams oppose it apparently

[gufc2000]

I was talking to someone who should know, and the reserve team thing has been on the table for a while. Most FD teams oppose it apparently

And rightly so, it's a ridiculous idea