I'm sick of going to a half empty Turners Cross

[GavinZac]

colm, you're wrong. and how would seeing them embarressed please people who just wanted them out so they wouldnt get the money? this shower are our champions and will be our champions. they are the team that people are going to rate the eL by. if they lost 10-0 we'd have even more people at home and abroad saying this is a mickey ouse league.

yes, shels are scum. but nobody else is going to push the agenda for the league, whether shels have the leagues interest at heart or not.

[Shelsman]

I'm sick of going to a half empty Turners Cross or Dalymount.

Try going to one that's half full?

[Shelsman]

If they won we might have given shels the league trophy at the start of every season and the rest of us play for second place..

Haven't you noticed that this is what is happening anyway?

....if they can progress into the group stage of the uefa cup,hopefully they will go out of that as well.

This is pathetically sad and petty. They are representing the league and as another person already said, if they get hammered then the barstoolers will keep saying that the eL is a mickey-mouse league, hence no more fans, sponsorship for ANY eL clubs INCLUDING Cork.

[Colm]

Shelsman, I see by looking at your signature that you have now become one of the many opposition fans who is obsessed with CCFC. Congratulations.

[Shelsman]

shels did incredibly well to get to the 3rd round, and to hold deportivo scoreless into the 2nd half of the 2nd leg was a great achievement. if jason byrne had scored from that first-half chance they might well have gone through to the group stage of the champions league. they've raised the profile of the league, which is good for all irish clubs. they've also raised the bar in terms of what irish clubs can aspire to.

as for the money they might have earned i have a question for thecorner, adamcarr etc. you say it'd be bad for the league to have 1 team much stronger/wealthier than all the others. would you still think that if it was cork city earning the 10 million?

we are in the great position of being the only club in the city. we have talented, young players and an ambitious manager/chairman. our problem is a lack of loyalty and patience among the fans. if we filled the cross for every home game we'd eventually be in a position to challenge shels financially, and in turn we'd improve on the pitch even more.

i think supporters have a part to play in building a fanbase. we need to convert thousands of one-off visitors into regular fans. the negative atmosphere at the cross, which is mirrored on this board, is starting to make me question whether i want to keep turning up, so i can only imagine what it's like for a newcomer checking out the scene.

instead of, for example, roaring abuse at a missplaced pass from georgie (or even a missed penalty), we as supporters should SUPPORT the team and the players. it seems like a bizarre concept, i know, but maybe the team would feel more comfortable in front of their home-crowd if they got the feeling we actually liked the team. maybe some SUPPORT for a player going through a bad patch might help him out of it, intead of ripping away the last few shreds of confidence he has by helpfully pointing out what a waste of space he is.

the club is obviously trying to move in the right direction, this should be applauded and SUPPORTED by us, the fans - and that is far more important to ccfc that what any other club is doing.

Well said.

[Shelsman]

Shelsman, I see by looking at your signature that you have now become one of the many opposition fans who is obsessed with CCFC. Congratulations.

Let's put it this way, I've been living in Cork for the last 10 years or so and every time I talk to a Cork fan they are going on about winning the league. It would be fair enough if they had the quality to do it, but it's only this year that they have a good squad and it's still not strong enough to finish in the top spot ( not enough strength in depth for a start and realistically short at least 3 top quality players ).
I've no problem with Cork doing well, but I just wish the City fans would be a bit more realisitic.

I wonder as well if a lot of the begrudgery to Shels is out of jealousy? Let's face it, Cork fans would love it if they could splash out on players the way Shels do and if anybody else can afford it, well, it's obviously not fair ( especially if Shels have apparently less fans at league games than Cork ).

[patsh]

Let's face it, Cork fans would love it if they could splash out on players the way Shels do

Interesting how they can manage that, while bleating about lack of money and claiming they can't pay players....