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    How many clubs own their own grounds?

    Just curious...

    How many clubs in the eL own their own grounds (Premier/First Div)?

    Kilkenny City have made great strides in their short existance(at the short term expense of a squad) whereas Waterford United will have to pay big bucks to get a plot on the Cork Rd as they have suggested they may do to move away from the restrictive RSC and City Council.
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    We don't, but we're trying to work on that. Council should be selling it to us sometime soon. They've a reduced budget and can't afford to keep it going.
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    Cork city dont either
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    i think

    and please correct me if im wrong which i prob am. The FAI own Dalymount and united park, athlone own mels but have/are selling it, cobh own st slopemans, kilkenny own Buckley, Galway rent, Limerick rent, cork rent, waterford rent, Harps own, sligo lease (100 year lease costing one pound or 1.27 euro per year) Derry rent, Dundalk?? Rovers rent, Pats own, Shels own, UCD own, Bray lease? monaghan own, Longford own/or holding company. Think thats it ive prob got some of them wrong but hea im only making educated guesses.

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    Sounds about right to me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353
    and please correct me if im wrong which i prob am. The FAI own Dalymount and united park, athlone own mels but have/are selling it, cobh own st slopemans, kilkenny own Buckley, Galway rent, Limerick rent, cork rent, waterford rent, Harps own, sligo lease (100 year lease costing one pound or 1.27 euro per year) Derry rent, Dundalk?? Rovers rent, Pats own, Shels own, UCD own, Bray lease? monaghan own, Longford own/or holding company. Think thats it ive prob got some of them wrong but hea im only making educated guesses.
    Bohemian FC own Dalymount Park, not the FAI.

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    Finn Park is held in trust for Finn Harps Co Op society. There is talk of selling it and moving to a new stadium up the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353
    and please correct me if im wrong which i prob am. The FAI own Dalymount and united park, athlone own mels but have/are selling it, cobh own st slopemans, kilkenny own Buckley, Galway rent, Limerick rent, cork rent, waterford rent, Harps own, sligo lease (100 year lease costing one pound or 1.27 euro per year) Derry rent, Dundalk?? Rovers rent, Pats own, Shels own, UCD own, Bray lease? monaghan own, Longford own/or holding company. Think thats it ive prob got some of them wrong but hea im only making educated guesses.
    Yeah we signed a 75 year lease on the Carlisle about 4/5 years ago

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    The FAI own Dalymount
    HOW do people still think that?

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    the fai saved dalymount for the gypos some years ago did they not?
    re carlisle afaik it was a 35 year lease signed about 4 years ago.

    and for harps fans, what is the likeliest plan for finn park? in fairness id love to see harps get promoted for away trip purposes, but that stadium is a joke.has any concrete plan been put in place for the redevolpement or what?

    fao derry suppoerters, will dcfc be redevolping the ground any time in the future.. if the whole stadium looked like the "good" stand all the way around the pitch the ground would look great..

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    Theres an old thread on this somewhere...

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    Quote Originally Posted by anto eile
    fao derry suppoerters, will dcfc be redevolping the ground any time in the future.. if the whole stadium looked like the "good" stand all the way around the pitch the ground would look great..
    If and when the Council sell the Brandy to us, yes. But until then we can't do anything because we don't actually own it, so we can't apply for funding and can't do the work ourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire
    If and when the Council sell the Brandy to us, yes. But until then we can't do anything because we don't actually own it, so we can't apply for funding and can't do the work ourselves.
    Bendy,If it doesn't work out with the Council,ye could play your home games at our spanking new stadium! (Jesus,don't let Dortie read this!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353
    Pats own, Shels own, UCD own
    Pats own something like 90% of Richmond, Shels have 60-odd years left of a 99 year lease on Tolka and UCD College own Belfield Park not the football club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353
    Galway rent.
    Not quite sure myself but I don't think we rent it, the Galway district league own it and just let us use it as no club is assigned to the grounds as its only used for cup finals. For e.g. the new stand which is supposed to be going up !! is a project by the "terryland developement committee". This is a board of people which consist of both junior and senior soccer members

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    as i siad

    Im ther to be corrected on the ownership of grounds issue. As mentioned above i thought the FAI bought Dalymount many years ago to get Bohs out of a bit of trouble, maybe it has changed hands since...i dont know. On the Harps thing a, harps fan working with me some yars ago said theat the best thing to do for harps was sell or leave Gortakeegan altogether and move to Finn Valley athletic grounds in Donegal town. again im only going and second hand info here and he himself was a ch*#t! UCD hadnt noticed the football club was diff from the college (schlorship thingies and all)

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    on the harps thing, we were up there recently and a borad member explained the move....it involves a new stadium and the sale of the old one to cover the costs....hope it goes well, great club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gael353
    the best thing to do for harps was sell or leave Gortakeegan altogether and move to Finn Valley athletic grounds in Donegal town.
    Yeah, a move away from Gortakeegan would be really popular with the fans.
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    Dundalk:
    Open to correction on this, but Dundalk's ground (Boriel) is owned by the Casey(?) family. No idea what the legal situation is, but the family are supporters for genreations, I doubt very much if any rent is asked for or paid.

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    Bohs have something like a 100 year lease from the FAI at Dalymount but do not own it according to a Bohs fan i was talking to up there earlier in the season

    It hardly matters. Very few continental clubs own thier ground i.e. milan/Bayern/Lazio etc

    it does them no harm

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