Name me ten Clare teams who don't rely on Gaa players..most teams are lucky to have 16-18 signed Limk is way different as the pool of players is stronger by at least 4 times..
To field their strongest 11 every team relies on the lads playing GAA. Its inevitable that lads will be playing other games and maybe the League Cup helps to ease teams into the League while they're waiting for the GAA lads to come back. However, the availability or non availability of lads should not distort the league and all teams should be starting the league together once the league cup is out of the way.
Originally Posted by dirtfree
I honestly believe that one of the most serious problems with Clare soccer is the constant concession to the GAA. No one can deny the league is organised to suit the GAA, and until that changes, the league will continue to decline.
I believe the way forward is a smaller, stronger league, made up of people to whom soccer is their primary interest.
Lads correct me if I'm wrong but every team in premier this year has Gaa players playing for them.Wether it be 1 or 5.no manager will want to start a league without their fittest players.. The realistic problem is numbers.. Every town or village in Clare has been hit by people moving away for work .. Just look at youths league over last 5 years..there is over 25 clubs in Clare soccer but yet the most youths teams we can get is probably 4-5.. Not much can be done about it but the future looks very bleak..
there are sixteen youth teams in the limerick league(two divisions).
the tdsl are(or were) also struggling at this age group,but i am informed that they introduced a scheme that any club entering a youth team would be given 1000 euro as a reward/contribution towards travelling costs etc.
good idea,but only if the league can afford it.
as for the affects of dual players(GAA and soccer),that also affects the limerick teams lads,not so much in the city,which would be competing with rugby rather then GAA,but in the county.
Ya but main difference is the population of limk must be 5 times that of Clare
According to a quick Google search, Limerick isnt that much bigger than Clare population wise. Also, you cant attribute emigration to the demise of Clare youths soccer. The lads emigrating are all in their 20's so it should be Junior Soccer thats being affected most.
bigger concentration of players rather then population, i would suspect.
it would make it easier,travel wise amongst others,to switch clubs,particularly in the city.
also,parish rivalry that exists in the GAA in clare, often overlaps into soccer,preventing players moving.
Guys in fairness every sport is struggling at the moment..the standard of every sport at all levels is gone down hill in the last 3-4 years .. It's a big problem from parents not driving kids to training/games to coaches not giving up their time anymore. To kids preferring to play consoles.. A generation of coaches are finished and not many ex-players are getting involved anymore..just look at all the clubs in Clare soccer struggling .
Most clubs who have struggled with playing numbers only have themselves to blame, it's no coincidence that Newmarket and avenue are dominating Clare soccer, they consistently produce u16/17/youths teams who can act as a conveyor belt to their junior team. Bridge utd have implemented this in the past 3 to 4 years and it's beginning to work slowly. Look at the teams that are struggling for players rinneanna, bridge Celtic, bunratty/cratloe, no youths or schoolboys. Good players don't grow on trees you have to invest time and coaching into them.
Just on the match last night.
Found out today that Darren has fractured his leg. Hopefully he'll make a speedy recovery. Has been excellent in the first few games this season for us
Will that result stand now?
My Goal Is To Deny Yours...
Never nice to hear .. Wishing him a speedy recovery.. As neither team could qualify I'm sure result will stand..
UPDATED RESULTS AND FIXTURES
Kerry, Clare, Desmond Round 1
Newcastle West Rvs (Desmond) v Adare Utd (Desmond)
Shannonside Utd (Desmond) v Dingle Bay Rovers (Kerry)
Glin Rovers (Desmond) 0-0 Listowel Celtic (Kerry) , Listowel win 6-5 on Pens AET .
Lifford FC (Clare) v Rineanna Rovers (Clare)
Carrig Celtic (Desmond) 1-2 St. Brendans Park (Kerry) , AET .
Round 2
Newcastle West FC (Desmond) v Castleisland FC (Kerry)
Ennis Town FC (Clare) v Tulla Utd (Clare)
Newmarket Celtic (Clare) v Abbeyfeale Utd (Desmond)
Rathkeale Utd (Desmond) v Newcastle West Rovers (Desmond) or Adare Utd (Desmond)
Kilkishen Celtic (Clare) v Mastergeena FC (Kerry)
Shannon Olympic (Clare) v Killarney Ath (Kerry)
Coole FC (Clare) v Spa Road Celtic (Kerry)
Pallaskenry FC (Desmond) v St. Brendans Park(Kerry)
Ballingarry FC (Desmond) v Burren Utd (Clare)
Classic FC (Kerry) v Shannonside Utd (Desmond) or Dingle Bay Rvs (Kerry)
Bridge Celtic (Clare) v Tralee Dynamos (Kerry)
Avenue Utd (Clare) v Lifford FC (Clare) or Rineanna Rovers (Clare)
Connolly Celtic (Clare) v Killeaney FC (Desmond)
Broadford Utd (Desmond) v Ruan Utd(Clare)
Listowel Celtic (Kerry) v Killarney Celtic (Kerry)
Bridge Utd (Clare) v Rhine Rovers (Clare)
1st round ties 15th /16th sept
2nd round ties 13th/ 14th oct
could not agree with you more.
some ex-players through work or family commitments cannot give their time...others choose not to.
shame that some,who have gotten so much out of the game,could not be bothered putting something back in.
we are lucky in a sense that we have a lot of former players coaching from under 6 to youth level.
as for the parents,some are very good,most are either inquiring as to what time will i pick him up,or how come he is not getting on.
we even had some parents saying there"little star" would sign,but only if we picked him up and dropped him home(for training and for matches).
sad really that.
Results stands as enough time was played in the game.
Best of luck to Darren, hopefully he'll back playing ball in no time.
most country clubs in the Limerick league have Gaa players in the club and too be honest its ruining soccer in the Limerick div, you could have a team that has its gaa players and it beats a good team, then when the gaa players are missing they are losing by 6 or 7 nil by a team struggling most weeks, not fair on the other teams, also junior soccer in Limerick gives too much respect to the gaa, we have all heard of stories were the gaa are told not to play a soccer game because they have a gaa game coming up.
UPDATED RESULTS AND FIXTURES after Sunday 16-09-12
Kerry, Clare, Desmond
Round 1
Newcastle West Rvs (Desmond) 4-2 Adare Utd (Desmond)
Shannonside Utd (Desmond) 2-2 Dingle Bay Rovers (Kerry), Dingle win 5-3 on Pens AET.
Glin Rovers (Desmond) 0-0 Listowel Celtic (Kerry) , Listowel win 6-5 on Pens AET .
Lifford FC (Clare) 11-0 Rineanna Rovers (Clare)
Carrig Celtic (Desmond) 1-2 St. Brendans Park (Kerry) , AET .
Round 2
Newcastle West FC (Desmond) v Castleisland FC (Kerry)
Ennis Town FC (Clare) v Tulla Utd (Clare)
Newmarket Celtic (Clare) v Abbeyfeale Utd (Desmond)
Rathkeale Utd (Desmond) v Newcastle West Rovers (Desmond)
Kilkishen Celtic (Clare) v Mastergeena FC (Kerry)
Shannon Olympic (Clare) v Killarney Ath (Kerry)
Coole FC (Clare) v Spa Road Celtic (Kerry)
Pallaskenry FC (Desmond) v St. Brendans Park(Kerry)
Ballingarry FC (Desmond) v Burren Utd (Clare)
Classic FC (Kerry) v Dingle Bay Rvs (Kerry)
Bridge Celtic (Clare) v Tralee Dynamos (Kerry)
Avenue Utd (Clare) v Lifford FC (Clare)
Connolly Celtic (Clare) v Killeaney FC (Desmond)
Broadford Utd (Desmond) v Ruan Utd(Clare)
Listowel Celtic (Kerry) v Killarney Celtic (Kerry)
Bridge Utd (Clare) v Rhine Rovers (Clare)
1st round ties 15th /16th sept
2nd round ties 13th/ 14th oct
Just read the fixture listing for next sunday, nof will have their 2nd league game played while the rest have'nt even played 1. I know fixtures will possibly catch up but its still not the way to start a League championship, a possible 6 pts on the cards so early on.
Does a dead exist for signing unsigned players?
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Same for mountshannon
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