Craig Doyle on BBC

**max power** · 23/08/2004, 1:56 PM

they are referring to a british company in britian getting paid sterling and playing under the union jack flying from the stadium.....whats the difference ???

my question about the south africian broadcaster still hasn't been answered, is it juat a british thing....plus some of the athletes are from northern "ireland" so maybe we isn't always wrong......because rugby players from the north are we as well aren't they....

**Bowsy** · 23/08/2004, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by max power

they are referring to a british company in britian getting paid sterling and playing under the union jack flying from the stadium.....whats the difference ???

my question about the south africian broadcaster still hasn't been answered, is it juat a british thing....plus some of the athletes are from northern "ireland" so maybe we isn't always wrong......because rugby players from the north are we as well aren't they....

There is a massive difference. Saying "we" about a British Team is saying by default as part of that we that he is British. Saying we about the company you work for has no conotations on your nationality it's simply a statement of who pays your wages.

I thought i bascally did answer the question about the south africian broadcaster. To quote myself "I personally would not use "we" when referring to another country".

**max power** · 23/08/2004, 2:17 PM

yes you personally so don't knock him just because you wouldn't do it. i have not or would never take any type of illegal drugs, but if others do that is their choice......

i think there are more important issues in society than an irish guy saying we on a British tv station.

**Roo69** · 23/08/2004, 2:20 PM

[QUOTE=max power]they are referring to a british company in britian getting paid sterling and playing under the union jack flying from the stadium.....whats the difference ???
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Personally i think theres a big difference ! When have you ever seen an Irish man proud to hear the British national anthem ? and as someone mentioned before, this has nothing what so ever to do ith being anti-british or anything like it.

**max power** · 23/08/2004, 2:21 PM

same again, matt holland......even sang it out at the play off final in wembley.

**Bowsy** · 23/08/2004, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by max power

i think there are more important issues in society than an irish guy saying we on a British tv station.

yeah, there are but that is what this discussion thread is about.

You have mentioned Matt Holland several times but why shouldn't he sing the British national anthem, he's at least half English(Doyle's not) so it's part of who he is. A man has the right to be proud of both sides of his family history.

**max power** · 23/08/2004, 2:38 PM

but its a sad state when with all the important topics in society that is what we are talking about.....

end of story, the guy is doing a job and doing it well, if you don't like it then watch rte, won't be too long before you switich back over to bbc......

**Bowsy** · 23/08/2004, 2:47 PM

Living in London so don't really have the choice but more than willing to agree to disagree and call this one a day.

**Littlest Hobo** · 25/08/2004, 1:47 PM

Originally Posted by Roo69

This bloke is really fcuking annoying me at this stage ! Fair enough he is working for a British station and kind of has to support the GB team, but why in hell is he going on like he was born and bread in Britian ?

"we won this" "we have a great chance of winning this" and the worst out of them all was " it was great to hear the British anthem out there today after winning gold" !!!!!!!!!!

Stop acting the p*ick Craig ! your Irish !

Turning into a stuckup tan. All the middle class nobs over here love him. With his well bred demeanour and clean cut looks. The middle england c**ts can relate to that alright.

**tiktok** · 25/08/2004, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by Littlest Hobo

With his well bred demeanour and clean cut looks. The middle england c**ts can relate to that alright.

...in the same way we can relate to Dunphy's inbred demeanour and hlaf-cut looks?

Middle england's inhabitants are well bred and attractive, that has to be the best back-handed compliment I've ever seen.

**Pablo** · 25/08/2004, 5:11 PM

its grating on me when he says "we" he's saying it in every other sentance now

Fair enough he's working for the BBC but theres ways around blatently denouncing your heritage

**Plastic Paddy** · 25/08/2004, 5:36 PM

Originally Posted by Pablo

Fair enough he's working for the BBC but theres ways around blatently denouncing your heritage

What a load of crap.

There's some growing up to be done by certain posters on this board. So effing what if he refers to the British as "we". In case people have forgotten, he is an anchorman for the British Broadcasting Corporation. What's he supposed to say? "Your lot?" "The Tans?" Oh please.

"We", in the context used after all, is shorthand for "Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Which - let's face it - is a bit of a mouthful to be using every time the team is to be referenced. Even for a rapid speaker like Mister Doyle.

FWIW, plenty of Ingurlish I've come across are just as miffed as some people here, but only because they want one of their own to present the coverage. For illustration, this is from a Nationwide Conference-related message board:

http://www.confguide.com/cboard.mpl?...d&thread=31357

Honest to God, haven't you all got something better to worry about?

PP

**Closed Account 2** · 25/08/2004, 6:41 PM

i think they could do with this guy presenting it myself

**slow2anger** · 26/08/2004, 7:24 AM

Originally Posted by Colm

Give the guy a break ffs.
He's working for the BBC so I assume he's told by his superiors that he has to say those kind of things.
He's got as good a job as you'll get in his business and I'm sure he'll say whatever he's told to say in order to keep it.
If I had a job like that with the BBC, i know I'd have no problem saying any of the above if I was required to.

I take it you are being sarcastic?