To be honest to question a man like Connie who has won everything possible in the game is ridiculous a top manager you don't win fai mj leagues without knowing what your doing.
Found out hahaha.MJ AND CHAMPIONS CUP.Can you tell me how many more has those as a player and manager.??????MJ now i mean.You didnt answer the question either.What have you achieved in the game to be so knowledgable.???????.Originally Posted by AlanOB
To be honest to question a man like Connie who has won everything possible in the game is ridiculous a top manager you don't win fai mj leagues without knowing what your doing.
I didn't answer the question because it's an absolutely ludicrous one.
How many top level players appear on our television screens with seemingly zero ability to read and analyse a game?
Having been involved in the game is not a prerequisite to knowledge in football. There are numerous examples in the modern game to back that up.
I've loved the game for 20 years. I'm by no means an athlete so I've never had the chance to play. But I have immersed myself in attempting to study and understand the game I love.
You should try it.
Also, lay off the question mark button. You'll destroy your keyboard.
And what about the resources at his disposal relative to other managers Thomas?
Might it be possible to win things under those circumstances, whether or not you know what you're doing?
Last edited by AlanOB; 08/06/2013 at 1:06 PM.
It was he who put those resources there as you call them.he then had to manage those resources didnt he?to which he has successfully done.but then again what would you know about winning anything.best around at talking drivel though.you win that hands down.54321.433.4213.and so on and on.
Lads,keep the posts civil and non personal or keep it to yourself.
interesting discussion,AOB has a point though,no manager has ever had the massive.....resources ...........the pike manager has had and while he has won everything available to win and indeed deserves credit for that this is a pike squad who should have won far more than one fai cup,imo they should have emulated what their great rivals fairview did but have fallen well short of that.pike did win 2 cups this year tbf,though most people hardly know the :champions cup :even exists given the farcial nature of that competition,the mjc win was well merited, the performances in the other competitions were well off the standards pike have previously set and sad to see pike travelling to games with 13 players.
I'm on alan o b,s side on this although not agreeing with everything he posts and says I have to say I find them very very interesting and informative and the minute someone gives out about pike the hotspur is in to defend his club which I also find amusing and as for the pike manager playing over 30 times for his country I think you are exaggerating that statistic and alan never mentioned anyone,s playing career he just stated simple facts and pike losing their league to Carew park is a poor return considering the RESOURCES at his disposal..
Fairkop do you know how hard it is to win an fai?and the champions cup is for all league winners in munster.tut tut thought you'd know that.and seabird i think your right.it was 31 times.silly me.he doesnt win a league once and yere on his case.if ye had half the knowledge he has and medals.then ye can talk.and hopefully in his new job he will bring the recognition to the limerick league which it deserves and if anyone can he can.now thats my lot.over and out.
Lads I don't think alanob is questioning how good Declan is as a manager or a player over his career,he was just questioning some of his decisions this season, like he has done with all games,whether we agree with them or not I find his reports very informative and interesting.I don't no who alanob is but I think he has a good understanding of the game.keep up the good work Alan.
Actually, I've had my doubts since last season.
Even then, Pike showed that their rigid approach with two no 9s meant that they often found it difficult to break down weaker sides on paper, who were looking to get men behind the ball. I'd call your attention to their victory over 1A side Caherdavin on penalties in the FAI Junior Cup. They also needed penalties to overcome Ballynanty, and were minutes away from defeat in normal time. Robbie Kelleher was put clean through at 2-1 for Balla too, and should have scored. Only the individual performance of Tierney saved them in that match, providing two assists.
That's kind of the point with Considine. Having two players who are head and shoulders above the rest in the middle (Tierney and Kavanagh) will cover a multitude. Look at the 6-1 away win against Carew in the league where the two of them ripped them apart.
But then you look at the 3-1 home defeat to Boro in the Tuohy when Tierney was missing. They had absolutely nothing going forward. The same old problems. Ineffective performances in wide areas from Hanrahan and Higgins. Both Barry and Moloney staying high up against Clarke and Colbert. Just a boxy, predictable shape. I believe that was also one of Jeffrey Judge's first games for the club, partnering Kavanagh in the middle. That proved to be a poor signing as Judge is not a good complement to Conor. Not a creative player. Not going to unlock a defence.
You need to look at the FAI Junior game against Wayside. Wayside sat deep with ten men behind the ball. Pike, in Tierney's absence again created absolutely nothing in 90 minutes, relying on Moloney to win a penalty in the dying seconds. Wayside on the other hand had two unbelievable chances to win the game.
If you're seeing a pattern, you're obviously reading carefully - the FAI run was an absolute farce, culminating in that bizarre tactical experiment with a back 3 against Clonmel Celtic that saw them eliminated (not long after being eliminated by the same side in the Munster Junior Cup).
I'll stress this point again because it bears repeating: When one has resources that far outstrip your opponents, triumph is sometimes guaranteed. But if the man at the top doesn't have the insight and the ability to manage those resources the cracks will appear to those who look carefully. And eventually he will be found out. So it has proved.
Last edited by AlanOB; 09/06/2013 at 12:30 PM.
yes hotspur,the champions cup is for all the league winners in munster and since its inception has been littered with walkovers and lack of interest.there is no doubt the fai is a difficult trophy to win ,but NO club in the last 5-6 years has had the quality and depth pike have had so imo one fai is a poor return on that ..investment...however given the knowledge and skills you constanly proport the departing pike manager possess,s hopefully we will see him back managing another club in the future albeit on considerable less resources and he will show everyone he has that skill set to win many more competitions.
Any chance I could use this season review for the Junior Soccer Portal website Alan?
You should have a message on Facebook about that Derek. Just some thoughts on how best I might be able to contribute. Hold off for now please.
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