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    Wink Worse than England?

    If Italy had taken their chances they would have been at least 2-0 down maybe more.

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    If Ireland had 1% of your passion for starting threads, the world would be our oyster.

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    That's the problem isn't it we play the same old threads when they were long past their sell by date.

    The players like the threads were all clutter up, they were getting in the way of each other.

    Had we one for man for man threading it would have been a different story

    We stubbornly stuck to a system which was not working.

    And if people were not expect to start threads they would never have invented the start thread button.
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    Groups B and C were by far the toughest. It's no surprise to see that the semi-finalists have come from both groups with none from A and D.
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    Thread fail?

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    That game was like watching paint dry. I kept switching to NASCAR and Octomoms porn video which were no better.
    This whole Tournament has been boring as ****te IMHO. I'd rather listen to Geysirs " Geysir presents an oral account of history, Part IV: Living in Ireland during the time of cholera" lecture which is around 6 hours long.
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    I think it's been the best tournament since the 80s.

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    I have actually really enjoyed it. Granted we were there, and also that I haven't seen as much as i normally would have, because of being away at it, but the games i have saw were all very interesting.

    I watched the England game yesterday and thought it was a very entertaining game, as entertaining as a 0-0 can be. One thing though, I know when you don't have the ball you do a lot of running, but what about the running spain and italy do with the ball and without. How come they just seem fitter than the Irish and English players? England were shagged shortly after the start of the second half. There is no excuse for fitness and stamina levels being 2nd best at international level.
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    'Entertaining' is stretching it. Littered by mistakes would be more apt.

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    Yes, I think we are worse than England, certainly personnel wise. How many of our players would get in to the English team on current form? None I'd say except possibly McLean for Young. Was our performance any worse? Marginally insofar as we didn't create anything worth talking about but we shut them out more I think. Another nail in the coffin for 4-4-2 ?
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    Pirlo....drool.

    He makes Gerrard look like a pub player.
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    Okay then, you all agree and comply with tricky's scatterbrained thread approach?
    if not, why participate in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    what about the running spain and italy do with the ball and without. How come they just seem fitter than the Irish and English players?
    I was reading last week that French TV has a version of Spitting Image and they caricature Spanish sportsmen (footballers, Nadal, Contador) as serial drug cheats and show them signing autographs with syringes.

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    Stutts, what do you think has made it the best tourney since the 80s?
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    Quality of games, technical quality of football, better refereeing (in general), less blatant cheating and cynicism, context of the games (Pol v Russia for e.g.,), a fantastic group of death, a window into the modern tactical set-up, only one 0-0 draw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I think it's been the best tournament since the 80s.
    The 1880's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Yes, I think we are worse than England, certainly personnel wise. How many of our players would get in to the English team on current form? None I'd say except possibly McLean for Young. Was our performance any worse? Marginally insofar as we didn't create anything worth talking about but we shut them out more I think. Another nail in the coffin for 4-4-2 ?
    Absolutely agree.

    In fact, in every position you could ask who is the worst England player that WOULd get into our team.

    GK isn't clear cut - Shay would be high up the list. But loads of English players barely even considered for England would get into our team. Take left back, or central midfield. I'm sure you'd have to go to Danny Murphy or below to find someone who would still get in our team. Which is why the "sum of the parts" question is important but that and the question at hand here could just as easily be asked in any of the existing post-Euro 2012 discussions already running.

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    ah yes the old defining ourselves in the shadow of England crops up again. This thread perfectly defines the small minded attitude of our fans and the embarrassment I've felt all tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan View Post
    Yes, I think we are worse than England, certainly personnel wise. How many of our players would get in to the English team on current form? None I'd say except possibly McLean for Young. Was our performance any worse? Marginally insofar as we didn't create anything worth talking about but we shut them out more I think. Another nail in the coffin for 4-4-2 ?
    England played 442 with better players than we have and were still extremely bad (particularly 2nd half and extra time).

    The modern very accurate short passing (and some long) has shown in this tournament that 442 cannot cope with it. Better pitchs may also have had an effect on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    I have actually really enjoyed it. Granted we were there, and also that I haven't seen as much as i normally would have, because of being away at it, but the games i have saw were all very interesting.

    I watched the England game yesterday and thought it was a very entertaining game, as entertaining as a 0-0 can be. One thing though, I know when you don't have the ball you do a lot of running, but what about the running spain and italy do with the ball and without. How come they just seem fitter than the Irish and English players? England were shagged shortly after the start of the second half. There is no excuse for fitness and stamina levels being 2nd best at international level.
    Running around after shadows is imo inevitably more tiring than running around with the ball. Spain throughout the tournament and Italy last night at least were in possession 70%+ that might explain it in part. I can never recall seeing a professional footballer go down with cramp on the 70 minute mark, as Gerard did last night.

    I really enjoyed the game last night. Ardee says it was "littered with mistakes" very poor finishing on the part of the Italians perhaps, though the build up play was excellent and the English being unable to string two passes together or get within an asses roar of the 3 man Italian midfield (Gerard/Parker - Huffed and Puffed but that was it) - But I enojoyed it thoroughly regardless, perhaps the outcome had a small part in it.

    EDIT - Just on the point regarding Italy's build up play. It was notable that Pirlo could easily ping a long ball over the top and on at least 3 or 4 occasions Balotelli or whoever were practically clean through on goal. Not sure was this because of the highline of Englands defence (surely Terry and Lescott didnt think they had the pace or good communication skills that this could work) or was it simply down to the inch perfect passing of Pirlo?
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