QuoteThere's always been a clear anti-Bohs agenda on that message board in fairness.
I posted on the Bohs mb but it was removed. Not sure why.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
There's always been a clear anti-Bohs agenda on that message board in fairness.
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Actually just noticed it was moved from the main forum to the LOI forum.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Wasn't sure where to put this but what did everyone else make of fran gavins thoughts on mns last night?
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It was a typical defensive FAI interview, basically denying that there is any problem in the league and passing the buck.Originally Posted by outspoken
And where did he get the statistic that 30 million has been put into the league to upgrade facillities etc? Or did I just dream that????
A meeting organised on the forums and through facebook. These thigns usually go well
Most active fans in the league are involved with their clubs in some way anyway. Thats how you effect change. Start with your own club and sort them out before moving on. Say 10 Shels fans turn up at this meeting. Imagine the work the ten of them could do for Shels instead of trying to run an anti Delaney campaign (and I'm not saying that sa ll there'll be...)
If the clubs are being run shoddily (and most are) then what chance is there of a well run league? Mr A is spot on above. Clubs need to work together, and fans need to be a part of this. But it has to be in the same direction
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I think 30 million figure is money spent by all soccer clubs in Ireland (its includes underage, junior intermediate clubs etc). All this money didn't come from Fai, in fact most of it would have come through Govt grants and fundraising by clubs themselves.
Roddy made a valid point last night that only difference between league now and 30 years ago is that the players are better and the facilities are a joke, while most have improved so grounds in premier div are not fit to host underage games, in first div some grounds are just a field with a fence.
Fran and the rest of the board running the league are just a bunch of clowns in suits(sorry for insulting clowns).
Any ideas how fans from all clubs protest against these clowns
In all fairness when I started following Waterford back in 1985/86 season, the vast majority of grounds with the honourable exceptions of Miltown, Flower Lodge and Dalymount were absolute dumps with non existent facilities.
The big difference now and I agree with the Rodster is that the playing standards has improved immensely and Dalymount is an absolute dump.
I just kept thinking 400,000, 400, 000, 400,000...........
I thought he came across well, not much else he can say. As mentioned above the sum of money he mentioned could bear some scrutiny, but what made it ridiculous was having Stephen McGuinness on, especially with no Mons rep.
A meeting like this of league fans could potentially be useful in so far as all gathered together they might get a small idea of just how clueless the average fan actually is when it comes to the ins and outs of how the league and the clubs are actually ran.
Or they could slap one another on the back and paint a few banners.
Whatever.
It's potentially a great idea but this is my problem with it...There is no direct link between the group and the people running the league or the FAI so even if they came up with the greatest ideas ever no one will hear about them only themselves so they might as well just post them on here! Also like you said it very well could turn into an anti-FAI fest resulting in bans for all the clubs because of banners, chants etc......Will be interesting to see how many of the 200+ that said they are going will actually turn up, hopefully it works out well for them, best of luck.
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.... and how are milltown and Flower Lodge getting on ?
Dodge is bang out.
Get involved in your own club, start making it better and then worry about the League.
Whatever grouping gets set up always gets accused of being biased.
Agree up to a point Kev but isn't each club "doing its own thing" part of the problem ? Yes, clubs need to get their own house in order but promoting the League, getting better licencing regulations etc is something I believe should be done centrally (ie FAI or similar)
Sorry MB,
I outlined my point poorly.
How many of those looking to set up an "anti-FAI" group, are involved in their clubs. How many of them have an honest/rational assessment of the state of their own clubs. There is no point going "Delaney Out" if you don't have an alternative to fill the vacuum.
Generally I tend to find that people who volunteer at their clubs tend to have the most pragmatic views of progress etc. Why? Because, they have a rasonable idea of what the challenges are and therefore aren't likely to go on mad rants about what should/should not be done.
Far, far, better than any League Of Ireland ground you care to mention
Didn't Shelbourne under Ollie Byrne do their own thing, ditto Bohs and Drogheda. The problem with clubs doing their own thing is that they usually make a mess of their club and then start crying to everyone else involved in Irish soccer looking for a bailout.
So your idea of progress LTID is to sell grounds to the GAA ? At least Dalymount (bad as it is) is still in Irish football the other two grounds referenced (by partizan) are (1) a housing estate and (2) lost to the black arts.
........ give me decaying Dalymount anytime
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Dont get me wrong Kev I agree RE "Delaney out" mob offering little (enjoyable though it may be) but there is a need for pressure to be put on the FAI to come up with a business plan for development/saving the league. Within that structure clubs will then manage/mismanage their own affairs but whatever damage they inflict on themselves will not be constantly weakening the League overall. If that pressure can be brught to bear by a LOI fans group so be it, although I agree it is probobly not likely. Anyb business plan that is developed must have the input of those involved in the game (that must be apparent even to the FAI)
Suspect it will eventually take an embarrassment factor to force the FAI to act. God knows what further damage will be done before we reach that point.
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