Apart from Lim€rick.
Cumann Peile Dún Dealgan - Champions 2015 (too many accolades to be typing)
Termonbarry Athletic TID!
There has been no indication of what happens next season? For example- Is there now an extra promotion slot in the first this season?
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
www.galwaysoccer.com for more info and blogs, set up voluntarily by a staff member of the local Post Office & member of GUST, its selling lotto, kit, maroon army and gust memberships across the world to Galwegians abroad daily. Mons fans are going to feel a tirade of emotions in next few months horrible horrible time for them
Last edited by geezer; 19/06/2012 at 9:55 PM.
Har Har
Stating the fact that one-third of the league's clubs crashing out in less than 5 years is a calamity is a bloody understatement on my part actually. Someone else needs a sense of perspective if they think this latest episode under the FAI's watch is 'just business'.
Look, the FAI's Licensing System is meant to regulate clubs from financial mismanagement and budgetary errors that could put a club's future at risk. Monaghan for the first time in 26 years screwed up badly, no argument about that and I never said the clubs play no fault in this. The whole point of the Licensing System is to preempt situations like this happening. It's the FAI's job to filter out the overspending and dodgy figures before it causes damage, if they told Monaghan to get real with their numbers in the winter they would still be in the LOI. If they can't spot the basics of clubs making sudden & wild budgetary assumptions on sponsorship, attendances and fundraising then the FAI have no business running a pub league let alone a national league. No isolated incidents here, 8 clubs crrrrrashing out, Bohs/Drogheda hung on, and Dundalk are the latest who have been 'unlucky' to slip through the oh so rigorous FAI forensics.... **** right it is easy to blame the FAI for this epidemic of clubs failing because their failure of a Licensing System is facilitating clubs fancy figures, unrealistic budgeting and subsequent deaths.
Oh. Feel special/JD's salary/teeth grindingly bitchy/ wiffle waffle. Yeah, I am a special LOI fan, I am a superior fan than the 'best fans in the world' and I am really jealous of JD's modest & well-earned 430k salary. How can anyone stating the obvious be anything else.
Last edited by total hoofball; 19/06/2012 at 10:01 PM.
The Leinster Senior League needs a strong Bohemians
So based on the FAI statement I'm guessing the cup draw will now have 'bye' as one of the possible draws?
30% of the wage bill? That'd be 5-6 home gate receipts. Given the trouble a number of teams are having coping with 3-4 weeks without a home fixture, I'd say that'd be a near impossible proposition for all but Limerick and perhaps Shamrock Rovers. Clubs just don't have access to those resources.
Last edited by Charlie Darwin; 20/06/2012 at 12:27 AM.
Ah 30%, 20% etc. Sure didn't Limerick HAVE to do it this season.
I'm dying for this to come out in the wash.
Any news on the Bray/Dundalk/AN OTHER FC meeting tonight?
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
I hear Limerick have decided to dial back their bitterness budget by 20%.
Try 100%
As, you can see, even this (what other clubs would consider significant) reduction hasn't bothered us in the slightest due to our filthy, dirty, rotten, rich, status:
Sean South is possibly my favourite poster on foot.ie aswell. That's not the first time he has had Galway fans screeching at him assuming he's a Limerick fan.![]()
Update on the KHL, the new clubs who are coming in this season have to front up half the cash for wages - lodged in an escrow (that was what the guy said) account. It'd be tight for any LOI club though it basically means you have your main sponsor in early, have sold x number of pre-season tickets and have no outstanding debts from the previous year. The biggest advantage for most KHL clubs is that they get part of their funding from the city/region and/or a local government interest - CSKA/CKA = Army etc. LOI clubs, as far as I know, have to put up a bond or for sure have to front up the registration fee. So this (I suppose) substitutes what the KHL ask for in a sense. The KHL model is borrowed from Russian soccer (again it's a city/region/business guarantee) - so for example when Sochi went bust those owed were paid off from a share of what was in some sort of pre-season kitty. It's been a year so I don't remember exactly.
If Limerick had to front up the cash, and did, I am sure all other clubs can do the same if they're serious. If your wage budget is 200k then even lodging 40k in advance of the season (if the club is well managed) is not beyond the realm of possibility. This is where supporters come in.
They run the licencing system. The evidence so far appears you can have the licence refused for the colour ink you use for the form, but put any old optimistic nonsense in the actual budget figures, and you get handed a premier licence. And there's no proper oversight as the season goes on. Yes you can, and should, blame the clubs. However, the FAI Licencing is supposed to be the system that protects clubs from themselves. Mons should never have budgeted for sponsorship without it being in the bag, and the FAI should never have issued a licence for the clubs based on a budget that included sponsorship that wasn't certain.
Still disgusted at Mons pulling the plug half way through the season though - that is unforgivable for me.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Macy I'm in agreement that licencing is flawed insofar as that it allows for clubs to estimate. This was the premise for Galway going gaga back in 2008 (I think) and for Dundalk this season, even for Mons. I agree also that Mons shouldn't have budgeted for sponsorship without something being signed. If they left it as 0000 then at least they'd have had to live within their means. So what does the FAI do? Only have actual figures which would mean that apart from 1 or 2 clubs nobody else would have a hope. I'd live with that if it meant that all clubs got their houses in order. If a club budgeted for next to nothing in order to get their licence, then they could ramp up the work once cash came in and it's all above board. But how many will go for that?
"Low lie, the crooks of Abbotstown
Where once you bought cans for green clad clowns.
Another club gone to the wall, while you’re in Poland having a ball,
Oh the hypocrisy of the crooks of Abbotstown"
That should be sang at every LoI ground in the country, this weekend
They always cheat, they always lie
**** Delaney and the FAI
Things like attendance can be estimated and be checked for being realistic. Even if they haven't published them, the FAI have supposedly been collecting them the last few years. After that, things like main sponsorship shouldn't be done on estimates - certainly not to the extent a club is relying on a certain amount which may or may not materialise to get through the bloody season.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
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