RTE Panel

**Real ale Madrid** · 27/06/2018, 9:03 AM

Stopped watching the RTE Panel when they got rid of Giles.

Giles commented on what he saw in games - he didn't guess / pretend to know anything like Dunphy tries to do and he was bar far the most knowledgeable tactically.

No point in watching now. I enjoy the games far more for just sitting down while they are on - I find I don't have time to sit down for an hour before and after the game anyway - who wants to listen to Brady rabbit on about VAR? Sadlier I like as a person but he offers nothing interesting from a punditry perspective.

For comedic value Kerr should do every game - possibly on his own. He called one of the Argentinian full backs - 'yer man Jalapeno' last night when referring to Mercado. In fairness to Kerr he's about the best co-comm, takes it seriously.

**DeLorean** · 27/06/2018, 9:20 AM

Kerr doesn't seem to be familiar with the football term for 'no goals' commonly known as 'nil'. He prefers to go with a Conor McGregor style "nuttin'". E.g. "They might as well have a go as they're losing one nuttin'.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 27/06/2018, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

For comedic value Kerr should do every game - possibly on his own. He called one of the Argentinian full backs - 'yer man Jalapeno' last night when referring to Mercado. In fairness to Kerr he's about the best co-comm, takes it seriously.

"Since Mezo came on he's had three touches: bad brutal and worse".

Brady also referred to the scorer of the winning goal last night as Marcus Row Joe.

**Diggs246** · 27/06/2018, 9:54 AM

Didi Hamman is the best pundit we have ever had ( he isn't the funniest, but the best)

**DeLorean** · 27/06/2018, 10:32 AM

He's very interesting alright.

**EAFC_rdfl** · 27/06/2018, 1:50 PM

get it right, it's Didi HamaM according to Dunphy

**OwlsFan** · 20/07/2018, 11:32 AM

Do most commentators actually know about the mechanics of the "precious away goal"? Tony O'Donoghue on RTE from Oriel Park when interviewing Stephen Kelly prior to the Levadia Tallin game. "And of course you have that 'precious away goal'". He didn't mean Dundalk had the lead in the tie but that they had an "away goal". If I was Stephen, I'd reply in Martin O'Neillesque terms: "How exactly Tony will that goal ever operate as a " precious away goal" since we won 0-1?". It is a lead goal not an the away goal. For a goal scored away from home in a first leg to ever have the possibility of operating as a "precious away goal", the home side has to score in the first leg otherwise the goal or goals will always be just a goal(s) scored away from home and count towards the aggregate score in the normal way without the added value of its preciousness being counted.

Oops, almost fell off my soapbox.

**DeLorean** · 20/07/2018, 1:22 PM

My pet hate. Tony is in good company on this one though, they nearly all say it.

**Stuttgart88** · 20/07/2018, 4:15 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Do most commentators actually know about the mechanics of the "precious away goal"? Tony O'Donoghue on RTE from Oriel Park when interviewing Stephen Kelly prior to the Levadia Tallin game. "And of course you have that 'precious away goal'". He didn't mean Dundalk had the lead in the tie but that they had an "away goal". If I was Stephen, I'd reply in Martin O'Neillesque terms: "How exactly Tony will that goal ever operate as a " precious away goal" since we won 0-1?". It is a lead goal not an the away goal. For a goal scored away from home in a first leg to ever have the possibility of operating as a "precious away goal", the home side has to score in the first leg otherwise the goal or goals will always be just a goal(s) scored away from home and count towards the aggregate score in the normal way without the added value of its preciousness being counted.

Oops, almost fell off my soapbox.

I always look at an away goal scored in the first leg as insurance against conceding one at home. That insurance is valuable. That's the pessimist in me.

**sidewayspasser** · 20/07/2018, 4:24 PM

Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Do most commentators actually know about the mechanics of the "precious away goal"? Tony O'Donoghue on RTE from Oriel Park when interviewing Stephen Kelly prior to the Levadia Tallin game. "And of course you have that 'precious away goal'".

At least he didn't say "the away goal counts double", as some commentators do.

**osarusan** · 21/07/2018, 4:14 PM

My own pet annoyance is when a team has lost the first leg by a single goal (say 1-0) and then go 1 down in the second leg. Sure as night follows day, Hamilton will inform us that really 'nothing has changed. They needed to score 2 goals to advance, and they still need to score 2 goals to advance.'

But no, things have changed. Before the goal, a goal of their own could have sent the game to extra time and penalties. Now it won't - they'd be out.

**Colbert Report** · 21/07/2018, 5:41 PM

Consider yourselves lucky, I live in America now and the entire concept of goal difference, never mind away goals, seems to befuddle every single commentator on television.

**OwlsFan** · 23/07/2018, 9:09 AM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Consider yourselves lucky, I live in America now and the entire concept of goal difference, never mind away goals, seems to befuddle every single commentator on television.

Count yourself lucky you didn't live (or perhaps you did) in the era of "goal average" which meant the number of goals scored divided by the number of goals conceded. That was the way things were done until it was dropped sometime in the 1970s I think. Thus a 20/10= 2 was better than 50/30= 1.66 even though the goal difference in the latter was better. What would the Yanks make of that one ?!

**DeLorean** · 25/07/2018, 1:24 PM

I don't know how to break this to you OwlsFan, but...

http://www.thejournal.ie/dunphy-leav...46916-Jul2018/

**Eminence Grise** · 25/07/2018, 1:25 PM

Sean Moncrieff just reported on Newstalk that Dunphy is to leave RTE.

Surprised, but it turns out to be true! https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018...on-dunphy-rte/

**Eminence Grise** · 25/07/2018, 1:26 PM

DeLorean, I'm the journeyman Dunphy to your superior Gilesyness!!

**Cuyahoga** · 25/07/2018, 5:31 PM

I might start watching RTE's coverage of international football now Dunphy has . Poor analyst, he was shown up by
Sadlier, Andrews and Hamann this Summer.

**DeLorean** · 26/07/2018, 12:40 PM

This is great from Daniel McDonnell, a shame it wasn't even more comprehensive but then you could write a couple of books on Dunphy's contradictions - https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-37156079.html

**OwlsFan** · 27/07/2018, 8:31 AM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

I don't know how to break this to you OwlsFan, but...

http://www.thejournal.ie/dunphy-leav...46916-Jul2018/

Dunphy on his own didn't bother me to be honest as the comic value was almost worth it. What annoyed me was the trio of O'Herlihy, Giles and Dunphy attacking every Irish manager (since Giles) without any disagreement between the three (the "I agree with Eamon", "I agree with John" show). Hatchet jobs (some deserving of course) on Messrs Hand et seq without ANY balanced discussion. At least Brady arrived to put up a defence of Trapp but that was the first time there was a dissenting voice to the assassinations.

Sky were on about the vital away goal for Rangers in their 0-1 win. Sigh.

Originally Posted by Cuyahoga

I might start watching RTE's coverage of international football now Dunphy has . Poor analyst, he was shown up by
Sadlier, Andrews and Hamann this Summer.

You must have been watching to know that

**OwlsFan** · 27/03/2019, 11:05 AM

I understand that Dunphy has found the stick to beat McCarthy with: Doherty must be included (I don't buy The Star but I have it on reliable information). So it begins....