Caroline, me trousers is burst.
You repeatedly slam the rte panel on here - yet bizarrely you continue to watch them - in fact you must have watched the piece last night repeatedly.
Weather you agree with the panel or not - all they offer is an opinion - weather they are right ar wrong is irrelevant - you'd swear these three were misleading the public on important issues ffs.
Let it go! there's a weath of podcasts,articles, and forums where you can get informed reliable analysis. You are flogging a dead horse slating the rte panel. They are there because they are popular - weather you or I like them or not.
Owls has the complete right to express his opinions on the rte panel, he doesn't start these threads but once the thread has started ..... he cannot resist. RTE is a public service broadcaster and the window to the national team for the bulk of the population. Other media outlets are not public service.
I find Owls' analysis original and a refreshing contrast to the status quo public service censorious propaganda and self assumed/appointed role as the authority on Irish football. Just because they are popular does not mean they are removed from observations and perceptions about their hypocrisy, bias, agendas, and of late their p'iss poor shoddy attempt to present the acclaimed alternatives available to what Trap selected for the squad.
Dunphy should never have had to ask Brady if there was anything coming through.
Trust me, I did not watch that piece repeatedly. I watched it once live with a couple of football friends and who laughed with me at the selective clippings and nonsense that was spouted.
I think who manages our team is an important issue and to quote your own phrase ffs. I also think it is not right that the national broadcaster should launch campaigns to attack the national managers from Hand through to Trappatoni. The trouble has always been that Giles has a philosophy of football and Dunphy has bowed to it. Thus there was never a debate as such as Laughing Bill took everything they say as gospel and then starts spouting it himself. I thought Darragh Maloney was good last night chairing the debate as he put forward contrary arguments for a change. But of course it ended with another anti-Trap poll should he remain on as manager? Why not have a poll such as has Laughing Bill ever been at a football match outside of the studio, is Giles too old for his job, is Dunphy's head so far up Giles' ar@e that it's suffering from collitis? Mind you I was surprised that as many as 30% said Trap should stay despite having heard the manager being torn to shreds.
Interesting little cameo at the end. Dunphy slated England and said they has no chance. Giles said he wasn't too sure and perhaps with the luck they have been having they were in with a chance and politely suggested that to Dunphy. Cue Dunphy to retreat hidden behind laughter.
I watch it Real Ale like I also watch Coronation Street (wife makes me) which is also hugely popular. For the farce element.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
But Dunphy is there purely for the farce element, you say it as if watching him for the car crash farcical comments aren't the only reason he's on television. Its why everyone watches him, I've never met someone who took him seriously.
In terms of football, yes its important, - but they are not giving out irresponsible financial advice for example. I think you have lost perspective on the issue.
I think rest of your post is contrived nonsense, but 2 more points:
You never mention Brady above - who was staunch in his defence of Trapatoni the day after the Spanish game.
Those Polls should not be taken seriously - 75% of people thought we would get a result in the Spanish game. Was it a legitimate question to ask ? Well after 3 defeats and a goal difference of -8, even if you don't agree - surely it was a legitimate question to ask and not the source of some hidden agenda.
It's a football programme. Are we not allowed discuss it and the views it puts forward and in the context of football who manages the football team is very important to me. It fact it is as important as some some financial programme giving out financial advice.
I did actually mention Brady in a previous post and yes he did staunchly defend Trap both on and off air apparently. I was away in Poznan for most of it but I was informed of it. Apparently he said to Dunphy at the start when the latter predicted we would get to the next round that he was only praising the Irish team so he could have a go at Trap when the team didn't perform to expectations. I have waited years for something like that on the Panel although Souness has in the past been excellent.
The agenda is not "hidden". It has been there for over 3 years and back to the Charlton etc eras. God knows Bill (not Laughing) said at the end of the Paris debacle that we were to "Rejoice" because we had played a different brand of football despite the devastation of losing out because of the handball. Madness!! Could you imagine in your wildest dreams (nightmares), the host of any TV show saying a nation should rejoice because a team had played well and yet had been knocked out of the world cup by a handball goal. The bias against Trap had got to him so much that he thought that this was a matter to rejoice at.
I think we know where the contrived nonsense comes from.
No, the Polls themselves are not to be taken seriously but the agenda behind the questions are.
At least we're out now and I can relax and just watch the anti-English and anti-Ronaldo show that will now take the place of the anti-Trap show.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
So you criticise me when I question the mentality of supporters who sing the Fields of Athery in the midst of a thrashing on another thread, yet Laughing Bill can't rejoice when we play good football!
As Giles would say : "nonsense, Absolute nonsense there Bill. Can we get back to talking about the football and taking each game as it comes there please?"
What's happened to Souness by the way? Thought he was excellent on RTE.
Souness was excellent. I do miss him.
He stopped being on air as a result of some rape comment he made during a match.
This needs to be clarified though.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
Was that the Vidic/Torres one? If that's the reason, it's ridiculous.
Souness was a great pundit (sh!te manager but knew what he was on about). Some of his arguments with Dunphy were comical. As much as Dunphy entertains me, he talks a lot of rubbish and Souness was always willing to call him on it. To be fair, Brady does that role quite well too.
Possibly. I don't recall.
It may simply as well that he doesn't want to anymore.
When the four were on together there was nothing like it. Wonderful punditry. The likes of which only the bbc and itv could dream about.
DID YOU NOTICE A SIGN OUTSIDE MY HOUSE...?
What's contradictory ? I was just making the point that they give opinions and there wasn't a need for Owls to dislike them, as at the end of day that's all they have is thier own opinions.
I don't really watch them much but you can't deny they are popular - they have been doing the same thing for decades at this stage. If they weren't popular they would be gone.
By being popular, they surely influence public opinion with what often happens to be misleading information, no?
Maybe so, although I thought Dunphy's run-through of "solution players" the other evening could be construed as misleading.
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