RTE Panel

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 26/02/2014, 2:57 PM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

It's eggchasing - not eggball.

I've stuck up for the rte panel on numerous occasions on this thread - but even I had to turn Dunphy off last week after the Arsenal / Munich game. Appalling!

Let me guess. Talking about how crap Bayern Munich's players are, particularly their defenders, as if the lack of quality defenders isn't endemic in football in general.

**IsMiseSean** · 26/02/2014, 3:02 PM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

It's eggchasing - not eggball.

The ball is shaped like an egg and they chase it. Both work!!

**tetsujin1979** · 26/02/2014, 4:31 PM

Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

It's eggchasing - not eggball.

I've stuck up for the rte panel on numerous occasions on this thread - but even I had to turn Dunphy off last week after the Arsenal / Munich game. Appalling!

some classics from him at the weekend after the draw was that Germany are not guaranteed to win the group (they are) and that we should write off the last seven years of Irish international football. He didn't mention if that should include the first qualification for a tournament in a decade, but I presume so.

**Mr A** · 27/02/2014, 11:16 AM

Classic Dunphy, at the start of a manager's reign you put on the green shirt and build up expectation. Then you turn on them later getting increasingly hysterical throughout.

He even did it during Noel King's brief reign, which was hilarious to watch unfold.

**KK77** · 27/02/2014, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Mr A

Classic Dunphy, at the start of a manager's reign you put on the green shirt and build up expectation. Then you turn on them later getting increasingly hysterical throughout.

He even did it during Noel King's brief reign, which was hilarious to watch unfold.

So true. Heard him on radio one when Noel King was put in charge and announced the squad and it went along the lines of......Noel is a good guy, Noel is a football man, Noel has picked a squad Trap should have been picking, Noel has done the ground work for the new man and then........if Noel does well he could be in for the job and why not. We know what happened next. All the manager's go the same way from start to finish under Dunphy as you say.

**geysir** · 27/02/2014, 12:18 PM

RTE panel's intrepid sideline reporter Tony O'Donoghue was at it again last night, this time his target was Mourinho who found himself caught between a wall and a manically grinning midget waving a huge microphone. Straight off the bat, somewhere in a 10 line scatterbrained question, Tony blatantly stated that Chelsea were not a good team, like the other good teams. After a considered,intelligent and honest assessment of the Chelsea performance by Mourinho, a reply that went way over Tony's head,
he (Tony) accused some 3 or 4 players of being silly because they picked up yellow cards,to which Mourinho could only shrug and say "that's life".

Tony was momentarily stunned by the brevity but saved by the clipboard, he managed to mutter the third question and alluded to Chelsea being bog standard in a bog standard league, a statement which rendered Mourinho almost speechless, 'I have nothing to say on that, I do my job and you experts do yours'.

RTE sent a full commentary team (including O'Donoghue and a camera operator) to Turkey for this 'highlight' of their night.

**Charlie Darwin** · 27/02/2014, 5:20 PM

Gilesy showing admirable restraint as per usual

**NeverFeltBetter** · 27/02/2014, 6:00 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

RTE panel's intrepid sideline reporter Tony O'Donoghue was at it again last night, this time his target was Mourinho who found himself caught between a wall and a manically grinning midget waving a huge microphone. Straight off the bat, somewhere in a 10 line scatterbrained question, Tony blatantly stated that Chelsea were not a good team, like the other good teams. After a considered,intelligent and honest assessment of the Chelsea performance by Mourinho, a reply that went way over Tony's head,
he (Tony) accused some 3 or 4 players of being silly because they picked up yellow cards,to which Mourinho could only shrug and say "that's life".

Tony was momentarily stunned by the brevity but saved by the clipboard, he managed to mutter the third question and alluded to Chelsea being bog standard in a bog standard league, a statement which rendered Mourinho almost speechless, 'I have nothing to say on that, I do my job and you experts do yours'.

RTE sent a full commentary team (including O'Donoghue and a camera operator) to Turkey for this 'highlight' of their night.

He's an utter troll. I cannot watch him anymore after the way he accosted Noel King.

**Grafter** · 27/02/2014, 7:50 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

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RTE sent a full commentary team (including O'Donoghue and a camera operator) to Turkey for this 'highlight' of their night.

Why in Gods name was O' Donoghue in Turkey, it's not as if it was a match filled with Irish interest?

**geysir** · 27/02/2014, 8:32 PM

Originally Posted by Grafter

Why in Gods name was O' Donoghue in Turkey, it's not as if it was a match filled with Irish interest?

Nobody needs to go there, RTE can just do what any other small tv network does, save a small fortune and do the commentary in a sound studio over the live feed. It can just sound the same to the viewer, it can even sound better if they have a half decent sound engineer.

**DeLorean** · 28/02/2014, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by osarusan

As examples:

Suarez handball: red card and penalty, as the liklihood of scoring a penalty is less likely than the occurance of a goal if he hadn't handled it.

Demichelis foul on Messi: penalty and yellow card, as I think the penalty is as good a chance as Messi would have had anyway.

Demichelis foul on Messi if it had happened 5 yards further up the pitch: red card, as the resulting free kick isn't as good a chance as Messi would have had.

Yeah that's interesting and good examples. I'm just not sure referees can be trusted to decide what the better chance would be, a penalty or a guy running through on goal. Devil's advocate here, but that could even vary from team to team. Fernando Torres, for example, was a lethal finisher in his time at Liverpool, but a poor penalty taker. If Liverpool were notoriously poor from spot kicks, does this mean that Torres running through on goal is always a better bet than a penalty, therefore professional fouls on Torres are always denying a more probable goal than a resulting spot kick?

And the other extreme, say Southampton in the Le Tissier days... well I think Le Tissier's penalties would always have been a more reliable bet than Neil Shipperley racing towards goal in a one on one! Taking that into account, the only red cards issued for offenders against Southampton would be as a result of a Suarez handball type incident.

Fair enough if you believe they can avoid individual factors like that but, even so, I think it might open a can of worms. Very few incidents are as clear cut as the Suarez handball, for example, and a huge percentage are fairly subjective. I think the more clearly defined it is, the better for everybody.

Originally Posted by osarusan

Awarding penalties for fouls outside the box: do we need to redefine professional foul for this? Are we differentiating between deliberate foul and mistimed tackle?

I don't think so really. As it stands red cards are issued in both cases, accidental or not. If they are being punished for denying a clear goal scoring opportunity (regardless of whether it was outside or inside), then surely the logical leveller for the attacking team is to be awarded a clear goal scoring opportunity i.e. a penalty. As for the punishment to the offending player, perhaps a yellow card is enough in all circumstances with the exception of dangerous play. Either that or have a yellow, or even nothing, for non-cynical and a red for cynical.

**DeLorean** · 11/03/2014, 11:48 AM

Was Soccer Republic any good last night? Does anybody know if it's repeated?

**paul_oshea** · 11/03/2014, 12:58 PM

Paul McGrath was on.

**Dodge** · 11/03/2014, 1:06 PM

Originally Posted by DeLorean

Was Soccer Republic any good last night? Does anybody know if it's repeated?

Not repeated. On the RTE player (island of Ireland only). Show was 90% LOI related. 3/4 minute interview with Martin O'Neill at the end. They spoke to McGrath about various things but mostly used as an analyst rather than an interviewee.

Fprmat OK but not much in it for non-LOI heads

**Lionel Ritchie** · 11/03/2014, 4:25 PM

I thought McGrath did quite well on it actually. According to the man himself he is very, very nervous when speaking in front of a camera or into a microphone but it didn't come across that way -nor did it appear he'd had anything of a liquid nature to steady his nerve. Hope it works out for him. I know very few people with a bad word for that guy. I think people just like to see him kick on and look after himself.