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    We can develop players, just we'll have to rely on clubs the other side of the Irish Sea to do this, mainly...

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    But it's not the 1980s anymore, when English clubs were mainly limited to young players from Britain and Ireland. Now these clubs attract players from across the globe. That we can't give our players a viable domestic platform on which to develop is shameful.

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    I know but is a domestic professional league even commercially viable?

    You'd like to think so but even the biggest clubs have struggled financially.

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    I don't know what qualities Keane and Quinn have to be coaching directors, even if they were willing.

    Now that Koevermans is gone, FAI would do alright if they hired somebody like Andy Roxburgh, who was the technical director hired by the Swiss FA to oversee the development of a coaching strategy and implemented it using the clubs as a conduit, all clubs - professional and amateur. The coaches (80 or 90 of them) are employed by the FA, spend their time working with the national youth teams, assisting clubs in coaching and then they are involved with the elite centres which the top 40 clubs run by themselves. Sadlier referred to too many LOI clubs being a problem, but he also pointed out where the established LOI clubs should be the obvious focus for the elite academies.

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    I take your point about Roxburgh but it didn't produce the players in Scotland when he was in charge of coaching. I would approach Quinn and Keane because not only have they played at the higest level they have good knowledge of the LOI and underage football in Ireland. The Germans, Dutch, French and others use personalities ie Beckenbauer along with thought out good coaching that suits their national character. Who determines good coaches/coaching? John Delaney or Quinn/Keane.
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    When Roxburgh was coaching director of the Scot's youngsters, he did very well.
    As coach to senior team he wouldn't have had much to do with directing coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boovidge View Post
    Niall Quinn, the same man who put so much time and effort into Sunderland instead of a LOI club?
    Niall Quinn did actually play for Sunderland and had set down roots there. I'd sooner criticise the Irish developers / publicans who poured millions into Sunderland rather than a LOI club. In general I think it'd be good if senior players of earlier vintages got back involved in Irish football. Quinn (especially) and Keane would remove any complacency that exists in the FAI. I think Quinn would be a good CEO. I don't see either getting his hands dirty on development - that's for coaches - but if those in charge of development were accountable to people like that I think we could rest assured that stuff will actually get done.

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    One of the first things Quinn would do is market the LOI to a worldwide Television audience. Delaney should have been knocking down the door of Foxsoccer, Aussie TV, Chinese TV a long time ago to sell the TV rights. It will happen and it will bring in much needed extra revenue for the clubs. If I can watch any number of national Leagues on cable (many of them inferior to the LOI) then that is something that needs to be addressed.

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    One thing the FAI could do, in conjunction with the Dept. of Foreign Affairs, is to charge non-EU clubs for them to plant some players in the LOI for a season to get them a EU work permit, allowing for more lucrative transfers to the big leagues. It needn't be widescale but would be a neat little earner.

    I'm sure the Asian gambling market could have appetite for televised LOI football because of its timing, but then the whole realm of match fixing / spot fixing would need tight policing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    One thing the FAI could do, in conjunction with the Dept. of Foreign Affairs, is to charge non-EU clubs for them to plant some players in the LOI for a season to get them a EU work permit, allowing for more lucrative transfers to the big leagues. It needn't be widescale but would be a neat little earner.
    This is a decent idea. If it only took 3 years for sportspeople to become a naturalised Irish citizen, then you'd see big clubs having Irish affiliate clubs to help with work permit regulations, rather than the likes of Antwerp in Belgium for Man Utd

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    CEO of Athlone Town's view of Koeverman legacy

    http://www.extratime.ie/newsdesk/art...stop-progress/

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    Probably the most information I've read about what Koeverman did while working for the FAI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
    I can warm to Kerr when he's being humble and balanced in the way he expresses his views.
    How many tournaments did he qualify for?

    Where was the full-flowing attacking football in Tel Aviv? Or in Nicosia? Or at home to an understrength France? Or even at home to the Swatches needing a goal to get a play off?

    The only balance about him is the way we're playing now. The way that got us further than he did.
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    Kerr's only being balanced when he remembers he has a chip on both shoulders.
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    Indo highlighting some key issues, without adding much in the way of detail.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...t-3147777.html

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    Great article. Hopefully people like him are involved with underage football in ireland.

    I am getting worried with our showing and general state of the game at home, for the younger generation. I feel in 10 years time at international level we could be in a very bad way both at senior and youth level.
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    If FAI dysfunction was an issue for Koevermans and he is now going to India where dysfunction is an art form, does that tell us anything about the FAI or Koevermans?
    Perhaps he suffers from codependency?

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    More money I'd guess.

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    Get the Germans in!

    Excepting a Herr Vogts.

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    In amongst the mess of recent days, poster of the moment Tricky Colour actually made a good point. Whereas I think we're producing players more or less of the same standard as in the past, bar the occasional exceptional talent, the rest of the game has moved on - especially in terms of technique. The technical capability of most players these days at the top level is superb. Teams are also set up to utilise this technical capability.

    We've stood still, many others have moved on.

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