QuoteWhy? Portugal played like Spain without the skill.
And if Italy got to the Final...
Gutted
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Why? Portugal played like Spain without the skill.
And if Italy got to the Final...
I enjoyed that game. Tough on Portugal, but what an effort they put in with 9 outfield players. Coentrao and Pepe were outstanding. Spain were the only team left standing in ET.
Radical game plan leaving their strikers on the bench. Maybe we could try that sometime.
Somehow the dink down the middle in the penalty shoot out was a bit of an anti climax, after Pirlo it will be seen as a form of plagiarism.
Context is everything. Knowing what we know about the relative ability of the two teams, how they play and what was at stake, I found it intriguing. But if that was a cold February league game with just the points at stake I'd have been screaming at both teams to do more.
Portugal played like Spain? .tf?
I'm gutted cos yet again I tipped the losing team.
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Whats the deal with Ronnie waiting for Pen number 5? Bizarre stuff.
Is there someone who doesn't like your losing tips, out to gut you?Originally Posted by BonnieShels
The 5th is the pressure one, why should Ronaldo lower himself to take one of the easier penalties?
No, the first 3 are the pressure ones...
So who are you backing for the Final, just so we know...
I'm afraid to say.
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Not if the scores are level after the first 3!
I think 1, 4 and 5 are the ones where you want your really best takers to step up.
1 to put a marker down
2 and 3 - well they're unlikely to be life or death affairs, you've still got a bail out option or another sucker to share the blame with.
4 - if it's got to 4 it's more than likely it's all to play for. It might be virtually sudden death at this stage.
5 - if it's got this far it's crucial.
Well yeah, agree with the theory.
But it doesn't usually work out like that...
The trick is to be the first side to miss a penalty, I think the records show that side goes through.
So I would put the best player second, that is the real pressure one.
I woudl have put Ronaldo first because he was blasting them over top all night.
Tricky is right on this one I reckon.
The no.of shoot-outs at the top level where the side missing first progresses is unreal. The only time I recall that not happening was this year's Chumps Lge. Final...
Just to let some facts get in the way of debate
From the Journal of Sports Sciences, success rate at Finals competition
- First kick 86.6%
- Second kick 81.7%
- Third kick 79.3%
- Fourth kick 72.5%
- Fifth kick 80%
- ‘Sudden death’ kicks 64.3%
- These results highlight the increasing pressure as the competition progresses and may also highlight the ‘best player should go first’ fallacy. The idea of ‘getting off to a good start’ by putting the best penalty taker first appears wrong as there is least pressure on this kick.
Of course this research falls flat if it was found that teams do put their best penalty taker first
Haha was just going to say that, you've pointed out exactly why it falls flat.Just to let some facts get in the way of debate
From the Journal of Sports Sciences, success rate at Finals competition
- First kick 86.6%
- Second kick 81.7%
- Third kick 79.3%
- Fourth kick 72.5%
- Fifth kick 80%
- ‘Sudden death’ kicks 64.3%
- These results highlight the increasing pressure as the competition progresses and may also highlight the ‘best player should go first’ fallacy. The idea of ‘getting off to a good start’ by putting the best penalty taker first appears wrong as there is least pressure on this kick.
Of course this research falls flat if it was found that teams do put their best penalty taker first
Just to clarify, meant the first miss of the shoot-out, not necessarily the first kick.
And how up-to-date are those stats? And what 'Finals'?
So 6years out-of-date then.
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 28/06/2012 at 12:11 AM.
Jordet, G., Hartman, E., Visscher, C. and Lemmink, K. A. P. M. (2006) Kicks from the penalty mark in soccer: The roles of stress, skill, and fatigue for kick outcomes. Journal of Sports Sciences, 1-9,
'penalty shoot-outs in the World Cup (WC), European Championships (EC) and the Copa America (CA).'
'The percentage success rate in the World Cup is 71.2% compared to 82.7% (CA) and 84.6% (EC), possibly reflecting the greater importance and consequent pressure of the world stage. The success rate of each penalty kick changes throughout the competition:'
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