Ssssshh we're trying to get some kip up here in Finn Park.
This is very true.
My dad started bringing me to games so I've kinda always looked at the league through the prism of his eyes.
As a result I always considered Shamrock Rovers and Dundalk to be by far the biggest clubs in the country.
Waterford would have been a much bigger club in my dads eyes than Bohs, Pats or Shels, all of whom my dad considered to be mere Dublin upstarts making hay while Rovers were going through a bad patch.
Drogheda were nobodies, Sligo were to be respected but were no bigger than ourselves, ditto Athlone. Cork were just another Cork team.
Whereas if I'd started going just off my own back at the same time I would have considered Pats, Shels, Bohs, Cork City to be the countries biggest clubs by far with sleeping giants in Rovers and Dundalk and dead ducks in Athlone and Waterford.
In my defence it was 2am, I just carried an extra one somewhere.(Oh and LTID's stats are wrong. There's been 91 champions; 57 Dublin teams, 10 Cork teams, 9 Dundalk, 6 Waterford, 2 Limerick, Athlone, Derry, Sligo, 1 Drogheda)
Still though, the point is valid, especially if you take Dundalk out of the provincials aswell. "Sleeping giants" my ring!
Galway city has outgrown Limerick according to the Central Statistics Office to become third biggest city http://www.cso.ie/en/statistics/popu...tyandcity2006/
I recall going to games in Rathbane (after they moved from Markets Field) in the late 80's when there were crowds in excess of 4000. Limerick City FC had outstanding players such as Tommy Gaynor, Johnny Matthews and Alec Ludzic. The potential is massive, especially if they move back to their spiritual home.
Nobody knows us, we don't care
On many a Rovers away trip , both here and abroad,you'll always hear the odd rendition of "oh we hate Dundalk and we hate dundalk"
nuff said.
Shamrock Rovers- Where trophies are won and envy is scarce
Sighs a tiny bit
Technicalities innit.
You are deluded, or simply unfamiliar with Limerick, if you think it has a smaller urban area than galway. The boundary issues are tediously well documented at this stage and are a large factor in the city centres slow death.
CSO city statistics make you technically correct you say?? Meh.
Actually can't believe I've gotten dragged in to the Galway v Limerick population windup again.
"The FAI's decision effectively disenfranchised the incumbent Limerick F.C. and its chairman Danny Drew, although the organisation remained receptive to the continued participation of Limerick within senior football. To this end, FAI chief executive John Delaney openly solicited approaches from other interested parties within the city of Limerick even as he announced the rejection of Limerick F.C.'s appeal: "We want a healthy Limerick based club in the new Eircom League of Ireland and if interested entities seek a licence, we would assess them carefully for their suitability to meet the criteria required to play in the league."[8] On January 3, 2007, the FAI confirmed that its appeal for Limerick-based applicants to the league had garnered interest from a number of parties, one of which identified itself as Soccer Limerick, a consortium purporting to represent the entire spectrum of Limerick football, from schoolboy to Junior (amateur) level, and operating under the auspices of the Limerick Sports Partnership.[9]
Eight days later, Soccer Limerick confirmed that its constituent committees had approved the submission of a formal application for a UEFA club license, with a view to gaining entry to the First Division of the National League for the 2007 season, with a team called Limerick 37, named after the year that the original club was founded. Soccer Limerick spokesman Ger Finnan confirmed that Limerick 37 planned to stage home fixtures at Jackman Park, headquarters of the LDMC, and would announce the appointment of a first-team manager on Monday January 15, 2007.[10] Paul McGee was subsequently appointed manager of Limerick 37, and signed 11 players before the start of the season.[11]"
Getting back to sleeping giants, one former giant of the LOI, Drumcondra are on a upward curve again. They won promotion to the 2nd tier of the LSL, managed by Gary Howlett, ex Shels, Brighton and Ireland. They are now back playing in Morton Stadium again, after they were discomoded by those upstarts from Fingal. Not sure if they have any desires to go back to the national league.
Always look on the bright side of life
Whats their average attendence like?
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adam jeez i was talking about my fathers perceptions is all, he would have been more used to hibs and celtic and whatnot so city never really registered with him.
read posts don't just scan for perceived slights, internet life is too short
This was in a local Limerick paper earlier this month, think it adequately sums up the Limerick sporting public.
I had never heard of Jackie Kyle,
Or even Willie John,
But when Munster became fashionable,
I put a red shirt on.
I thought that Shannon was a river,
And Garryowen an estate,
And as far as cookies go you ate them from a plate.
They say there's a rugby ground in Coonagh,
And one in Dooradoyle,
I've seen a couple out Rosbrien way,
Can't remember their names at all.
But I talk of Rog, Strings and Paulie,
And my friends are quite impressed,
Where in the distant past,
All I talked of was George Best.
There's achap down in our "local"
Who talks of Jackman Park,
And the thrill of watching Limerick FC
On a Friday after dark,
He talks of names like Behan,
Pat Purcell and Gaffney too, But then I do remind him
That their success is few,
But he says things are a changing
And promotion it is due,
And before very long they could be fashionable too.
Well if this were to happen,
Oh dear what would I do,
For as well as my red shirt
I'll need a blue one too.
So I took myself to Jackman Park
To see if this were true
And while Limerick did score one goal
Longford they scored two.
Basically there is a hell of a lot of band-wagoners in the city. We have the advantage of having a decent sized population as people have mentioned already. IF (and its a big if at the moment) all the pieces fall into place I think the tag would be just of sleeping giants. Obviously promotion this year, a return to the markets field soon and playing more attractive football are all requirements. If that happens I think there would be a decent increase in attendances and we could be competitive in the premier division.
I never said anything about the size of the urban area, I was referring to the size of population. The last two census polls illustrate that the population of Galway is greater than Limerick. How does that make me deluded? Which part of that do you not understand?
Keep up, will you.
Nobody knows us, we don't care
When/If the boundry issues of Limerick City are resolved and the border is extended to cover the large suburban area around the city, which Galway already does, Limerick City's official population would be over 10'000 larger then Galways. There are 40'000 people who would say they are living in "Limerick City" who are, technically, just outside it. Right now, anyway.
More basically put, Limerick FC has a much larger pool of people in the immediate area it can try and attract then any Galway club right now. But it's still very difficult for both cities. A "bad crowd" for the Limerick Gaelic Footballers last week was still twice what Limerick FC got for their home game against Longford. I'll hazard it will be much the same, or worse, in Galway.
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Put your censuses back in your pants lads.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Harps have a big sleepy defense, does that count?
You can shove your British Culture up your Londonderryair!
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