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    Well he can't go to the UK for another year, which is where the other reported interest was from. I don't blame him for wanting to move to a better setup sooner than that.
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

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    Goalkeeper Conor Clark (QPR) has gone on a month's loan to Woodley in the Combined Counties League Division One. (https://www.qpr.co.uk/news 23 Feb.)

    He scored QPR U-18s' fifth goal from play when they beat Millwall U-18s in December.

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    Squad announced for a double header against Slovakia
    https://www.fai.ie/latest/mu19-mohan...double-header/

    Goalkeepers: Louis Brady (West Bromwich Albion), Conor Walsh (Finn Harps, on loan from Sligo Rovers), Andrew Wogan (Drogheda United)*

    Defenders: Stanley Ashbee (Hull City), Killian Cailloce (Bohemians), Adam Deans (St. Patrick’s Athletic), Jake Grante (Crystal Palace), Cory O’Sullivan (Shamrock Rovers), John O’Sullivan (Shamrock Rovers), Lewis Temple (Shelbourne), Freddie Turley (Bray Wanderers, on loan from Shamrock Rovers)

    Midfielders: Romeo Akachukwu (Waterford), Darius Lipsuic (Stoke City), Daniel McGrath (Lommel SK), James McManus (Bohemians), Naj Razi (Como), Joe O’Brien-Whitmarsh (Southampton)

    Forwards: Rhys Brennan (Bohemians), Ryan Kelly (Shamrock Rovers), Sean Moore (West Ham United), Sean Patton (Derry City), Franco Umeh (Crystal Palace)

    *Alex Wogan will join up with the squad after the Under-21s' qualifier with San Marino

    International Friendly Fixtures (kick-offs Irish time)
    Saturday, March 23 | Slovakia MU19 v Ireland MU19, MOL Academy, Dunajská Streda, Slovakia, 2pm
    Tuesday, March 26 | Slovakia MU19 v Ireland MU19, MOL Academy, Dunajská Streda Slovakia, 10.30am
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    Trent Kone Doherty hasnt been in an Ireland squad for a while now. Is he injured again? Are the North offering him senior caps?
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Scored for Liverpool U21s last weekend, so it's unlikely that he's injured.
    https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/u21...y-and-williams
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Scored for Liverpool U21s last weekend, so it's unlikely that he's injured.
    https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/u21...y-and-williams
    A bit worrying that he hasn't been involved much lately so
    Its really not that complicated!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Trent Kone Doherty hasnt been in an Ireland squad for a while now. Is he injured again? Are the North offering him senior caps?
    Liverpool aren't obligated to release him. Not the first time either and not sure if they've held back others this window but they've done it before where they've refused to release any player they're not obligated to release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    A bit worrying that he hasn't been involved much lately so
    Yeah, himself, Kevin Zefi, Justin Ferizaj and Cathal Heffernan are all declaring for Northern Ireland.

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    Also if TKD had any interest in NI he'd already be playing with them knowing they fast track players.

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    Lineup against Slovakia announced
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Are the North offering [Trent Kone Doherty] senior caps?
    No.

    Nor NI either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Also if TKD had any interest in NI he'd already be playing with them knowing they fast track players.
    A myth.

    NI have long known that you cannot fast-track players (to try to tie them down), since that will not work - think eg James McClean, 7 U-21 caps while a LOI player, and a call-up to the senior squad for a competitive game which would have tied him and which he accepted, before a last minute move to Niall Quinn's Sunderland diverted him.

    And since then the loosening of the criteria to tie a player down have also made any such attempts ever harder - think eg Declan Rice (Jack Grealish?) reverting last-minute to England.

    Fact is, NI have such a limited player pool that we usually have to cap players very early in their career, frequently before they're properly ready for senior football. A good example was last night away to Romania, when the starting XI didn't have a single player over 30, an average age of 23 yrs 5 mths, with five of them still being eligible for the U-21's.

    And of those five youngsters, only Conor Bradley would have been of interest to ROI, he's never had any interest in switching, and indeed is such a prospect that picking him at 18 for NI before he had broken into the Liverpool was by no means premature. (Was MOTM last night, btw)

    EDIT: Conor was still 17 - just - when he made his NI debut, for the last few minutes in a friendly away to Malta btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Fact is, NI have such a limited player pool that we usually have to cap players very early in their career, frequently before they're properly ready for senior football.
    That’s pretty much the definition of fast-tracking to be fair…

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    That’s pretty much the definition of fast-tracking to be fair…
    Like 'JR89', I meant "fast-tracking" in the context of tying them down from playing for ROI - it doesn't happen since it cannot work.

    And even by the usual definition of "fast-tracking" i.e. giving a young prospect earlier exposure than he might objectively merit with an eye to the future, Bradley is/was far too good to be ignored a minute longer by NI, same as eg Norman Whiteside, another 17 y.o. who made his debut for NI in a World Cup Finals tournament.

    Or would you say that England "fast-tracked" eg the 17 y.o. Jude Bellingham when he got his first cap, or Brazil, if they should pick 17.y.o. Endrick tonight at Wembley?

    Simple fact is, if you're good enough, you're old enough - and all those players are/were so good that not picking them would actually have been holding them back unnaturally - the opposite of "fast-tracking".
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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Like 'JR89', I meant "fast-tracking" in the context of tying them down from playing for ROI - it doesn't happen since it cannot work.
    Don't try and put words in my mouth Terri because I meant exactly what Stu pointed out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    Don't try and put words in my mouth Terri because I meant exactly what Stu pointed out.
    It appeared to me that you were implying that NI give out caps to youngsters to keep them from opting for ROI, rather than because they were the best available to us. (TKD wouldn't apply on that latter score, yet at any rate)

    If I inferred incorrectly, then just say so and I'll gladly withdraw it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    If I inferred incorrectly, then just say so and I'll gladly withdraw it.
    I think he did just say so.

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    Second friendly against Slovakia is about to kick off
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