Maybe their players are not good enough to go anywhere else. Why would other clubs or the clubs good at bringing players through be letting these super-stars slip through their fingers. Why would football in general be letting potentially very valuable players slip through its fingers = = It makes not a jot of sense.Originally Posted by Trequartista20
I think it was McNulty who made a really really bad mistake for the 17s in the Euros a couple of years ago, loose back pass or intercepted pass across to his cb partner, one of a few in the same game. Remember thinking at the time, this is the level for it to happen to him, because it won't happen again. And sure enough next game, he was tops.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
It's all opinions, but I think I saw Coffey play in the flesh at underage level twice, and a few times on the telly, and not once did I ever think he was going to be a player who would have a future senior career at International level.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
I agree with 3/420 completely, and god knows, we don't agree on much!
And to defend CSAD a touch, reading his recent posts, it seems to me that he isn't so much criticising Celtic (or caring about what Celtic do) as much as displaying concern for promising Irish kids who go there bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. Only difference between them and Connell is his first-team experience, that's what hurts him particularly.
Eirambler makes the point about Celtic covering the outlay on 3 players by the money brought in by Frimpong - that's exactly it. It's a business model as seen by Liverpool and countless other clubs. Dare I say it, it's a similar model to what the big schoolboy clubs have. Take the brightest, biggest and best, and one of them is bound to do well, get a transfer and keep the show on the road.
Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!
Is he saying that lads cant go to the uk until they are 18? or have I miss read it?
Yes, and it's correct. Due to Brexit, EU players can't move to the UK for football reasons until they are 18. Evan Ferguson was able to move at 16, but it's because his mother has a UK passport.
OMG, that's is a disaster.
Do we not have an agreement with teh brits "common travel area" that's supersedes EU regulations
Connell played 10 games for Bolton at the tail end of the season and they lost 9 of them. They were in free fall so hard to judge how good or bad a player is in that circumstance. Often young lads get credit for trying hard and their quality can be overlooked in these situations. Him and his agent probably couldn't believe there luck when he got offered a 4 year deal!
One thing that alarms me about Connell is if he was promising why didn't get a loan move to a better club at a higher level? E.g League 1 / league 2 scottish championship etc. Thats 60 / 70 clubs that are constantly monitoring for good value loans deals etc Anyway if he can't get himself a better loan move this season that's a red flag, assuming he doesn't get a look in at Celtic.
I do agree that the Celtic youth structure / transfers are in a mess (Agree re reserve league) but I look at it that the mess is in their own talent identification - they seem to be very poor at it and this has benefited the likes of O'Connor, Coffey, Afolabi by them getting good long term deals that they may not have got anywhere else.
Does anyone have any knowledge in this field that can advise?
Doesn't apply, FIFA's rules supersede it.
https://www.the42.ie/irish-football-...07749-Dec2020/
A 16 year old could move to the UK if one of their parents got a job there unrelated to football, but then you'd have to prove that the player joining a club was not related to the move, which doesn't seem like something few, if any, clubs would be interested in doing
The Eu is the Super-State / Empire now.
I think our young lads already heading to France and Italy in recent months, largely for the first time, with others linked to clubs in different countries is advice enough.
ours to lose.
There's definitely an infrastructure problem when it comes to Celtic which is leading young players into a career trap if they go there - at a point when they need to be playing regularly at a high level, they have not been playing much competitive football at all and now in the Lowland league will be playing against players ranked about 900th best to 1500th best in Scotland (assuming 20 players to a squad in the leagues above them and a number of players in England). If they stay in an academy in England, at least they will be testing themselves against some of the best young players in the world. Even if they come back to LoI and we assume there's about 100 Irish pros in England at a higher level, they will be testing themselves competitively against players ranked 100th best to 300th best in Ireland.
This is total disaster. There is no point pretending the FAI will be pushed into action and before we know it, we have a league like they do in Belgium or the like. We are serous hot water here.
It supercedes EU regulations but not FIFA regulations. FIFA's rules are that nobody can move before they're 18, but they have to make an exception for the EU due to freedom of movement for labour, but that no longer applies to the UK.
But didn't Messi go from Argentina to Barca as a kid?
Pretty sure Messi holds a Spanish passport. Also the reason why he doesn’t count as a non EU player for Barcelona.
Well he got that in 2005. He moved to Spain in 2000. Maybe the rules were different then.
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