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    Great to see a big squad of youngsters, Mohan is leaving no stone unturned

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    Josh Ireland, Andreucci and Gilsenan have all featured quite recently with other nations. Am I missing anyone else? This is a training camp held in the centre of England which is quite accessible. I'd be interested to see if the likes of this trio are considering their decision to attend a training camp to be the first step to switching to representing Ireland.

    Gilsenan in particular- ok, some in Australia might ask if there's a commitment issue but I'm sure they'd still pick him if he turned around after this and confirmed he was sticking with Australia. Otherwise, it's a win-win for him.
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    Josh Clarke has featured for both England and Sweden recently too.

    This camp is a good chance to make a good impression to all these dual nationals we have coming through at a minimum. Good to see a proactive approach.

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    Full list of players called up: https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-...ons-at-uk-camp
    Interesting that the article describes them as "Irish eligible"
    Aaron O'Reilly (Aston Villa)
    Connor Barratt (Birmingham City)
    Will Blease (Blackburn Rovers)
    Zak Gilsenan (Blackburn Rovers)
    Rio McEvoy (Bolton Wanderers)
    Ruairi Behan (Burnley)
    Ciaran Gilligan (Burton Albion)
    Jay McGrath (Coventry City)
    Fionn O'Brien (Coventry City)
    Noah Watson (Crystal Palace)
    Ola Ibrahim (Derby County)
    Cian Kelly Caprani (Derby County)
    Cian Coleman (Leeds United)
    Ben Andreucci (Leeds United)
    Arlo Doherty (Leicester City)
    Billy Brooks (Lincoln City)
    Matthew Boylan (Lincoln City)
    Ed McJannett (Luton Town)
    Owen Mason (Mansfield Town)
    Callum Kavanagh (Middlesbrough)
    Sam Blair (Norwich City)
    Osakpolor Solomon (Nottingham Forest)
    Josh Seary (Preston North End)
    Harry Nevin (Preston North End)
    Jacob Slater (Preston North End)
    Sinclair Armstrong (QPR)
    Harvey Cullinan (Sheffield United)
    Leonardo Gaxha (Sheffield United)
    Luke Pearce (Southampton)
    Noah Jauny (Stade Brestois)
    David Okagbue (Stoke City)
    Joshua Ireland (Stoke City)
    Sam Knowles (Stoke City)
    Caden Kelly (Sunderland)
    Aaron Maguire (Tottenham Hotspur)
    Bosun Lawall (Watford)
    Joe O'Shaugnessy (Wolves)
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    is Joshua Ireland stephen irelands son??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbyrne View Post
    is Joshua Ireland stephen irelands son??
    Yep. John McGrath and Graham Kavanagh have sons (Jay and Callum) in there too.

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    Something I didn't know until recently is that Graham Kavanagh is married to Liam O'Brien's sister, so their son has quite the pedigree.
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    From the list above, this name is interesting - and the only one based outside England
    Noah Jauny (Stade Brestois)
    Played for Home Farm, Swords, and Shamrock Rovers, before signing for Stade last year. Based on a quick search, it seems his father, Stephane, played for Dundalk in the late 90s
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Full list of players released: https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-...ons-at-uk-camp
    Interesting that the article describes them as "Irish eligible"
    A sort of United Nations squad !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Full list of players released: https://www.fai.ie/ireland/news/u19-...ons-at-uk-camp
    Interesting that the article describes them as "Irish eligible"
    I have been googling a lot of the names to get a bit of background. A significant chunk of them are English-born and have not been involved with Ireland before. I don't have a particular issue with that but I don't know if the purpose of the camp is very clear.

    Are there players that are eligible for our under 19 side that have been involved with us before that are not in this group and is there a reason why they are not included?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    I have been googling a lot of the names to get a bit of background. A significant chunk of them are English-born and have not been involved with Ireland before. I don't have a particular issue with that but I don't know if the purpose of the camp is very clear
    I suppose covid restrictions may mean a UK-based squad makes sense. if that were a full squad, I'd be concerned at what it meant for the LoI underage revamp

    I don't think we should get too attached to these guys yet - there'll be a Declan Rice or two there - but we can only ask at this stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    I have been googling a lot of the names to get a bit of background. A significant chunk of them are English-born and have not been involved with Ireland before. I don't have a particular issue with that but I don't know if the purpose of the camp is very clear.
    I am sure it is really just to make them feel welcome, get them a little excited, expose them to the irish set-up and management teams and share the stories and videos from the golden years 1916, 1988, 1990, 1994, 2002. Maybe convince a few of them to stay with us - and take up arms in the fight to end British rule in Ireland, facilitate Irish reunification and bring about an independent, socialist republic encompassing all of Ireland.

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    Okay. I'm just not up to speed with this age group. Are there not that many Irish-born players based in England eligible for that age group?

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    Fair point; don't know tbh. Numbers in England have been dwindling steadily the last 20 years so it wouldn't entirely surprise me. How many are foreign-born?

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    Well the fact that Andrew Moran and Roughan and the likes aren't in there suggests this is far from a full strength squad. Will certainly keep Kenny's Kids and the likes busy now that they have 20 or so new names to follow in the Under 18 and 23 leagues in England.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Well the fact that Andrew Moran and Roughan and the likes aren't in there suggests this is far from a full strength squad. Will certainly keep Kenny's Kids and the likes busy now that they have 20 or so new names to follow in the Under 18 and 23 leagues in England.
    Roughan is on trial with Chelsea right now so hes probably trying to sort out his move and this camp would be bad timing.

    Moran will most likely be in the U21s Id say along Tom Canon who is also an obvious miss from this squad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Well the fact that Andrew Moran and Roughan and the likes aren't in there suggests this is far from a full strength squad. Will certainly keep Kenny's Kids and the likes busy now that they have 20 or so new names to follow in the Under 18 and 23 leagues in England.
    I'd only know of about half the players but good to see the likes of Josh Ireland, Ola Ibrahim and Zak Gilsenen there. Plenty of good players like Calum Kavanagh, Kelly Capriani, Armstrong, Gaxha, Lawall...

    I'd suspect they're thinking that the 2003 group only had a single camp at U17s and the 2004 group didn't have any. Normally by now, each age group would have had 30-40 players in each year to call upon. Positive to have an opportunity to look at players in greater detail

    It's also possible there were issues in releasing some of the players. Anyone playing in the championship or league 1 should be fine but if Brighton or Fulham or whoever wanted to keep a player training to make up numbers, they wouldn't be allowed to travel.

    Obviously, you've got the like of Moran, Roughan, Ferguson, O'Neill, Harkin, Adaramolo in England who you'd imagine would be part of an official squad.

    Then you've got the likes of McNulty, McLoughlin, Finn, Rose and Zefi based in Europe and home based players like Kenny, McCormack, Banya, Hand, Kelley, O'Brien, Cian Kavanagh and O'Kane.

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    Gilsenan seemed to be keen on Australia as of last year. I believe both his parents are Irish though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Great to see a big squad of youngsters, Mohan is leaving no stone unturned
    Unlike the senior team where there's no turn unstoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Okay. I'm just not up to speed with this age group. Are there not that many Irish-born players based in England eligible for that age group?
    I would assume the Irish born players are home for a few weeks now that their seasons are finished. Far as I'm aware, there's an Irish based camp in two weeks time.
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