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    That many? You seem wound up, relax pal, it's just the internet.

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    So, on the actual game...

    Really disappointing. Gamble and Bradley were ok for parts, Gaffney made an effort, nearly everyone else was all over the place. Behan just seemed off the pace big time, the whole mentality was wrong. So many wayward passes, with Waterford looking way better on the ball. Blaming the pitch is one thing, but Limerick should be well used to it. Sheahan failed to have an impact when he came on, some of the crosses from the right in the second half were truly dire. And upfront, just appalling. Losing 1-0 at half time, and the only real effort in the second was that really wayward Gaffney shot, when he had the opportunity to advance. When called to dig deep and put in the extra effort to rescue the game, just like with Longford, the Limerick team just did not have it in them.

    The play for the goal really showcased some defensive weakness, the ball could have been cleared a few times if Limerick were just a bit quicker, a bit more organised. Waterford weren't really that great - they didn't exactly make a lot of chances and were pegged back for large portions - but they took their chance and never looked like they were too pressed.

    Just what is it about the home games? It is so bizarre, seeing Limerick fail to perform in their last two games at Jackman Park, while dominating the opposition at two away games in-between.

    I cannot imagine that Scully has many chances left to get it right in a big home game. I'm not going to be chanting for his head from the sideline just yet, but the temptation to make a change before too much of the season is gone by must be getting bigger and bigger for the boardroom. Aside from his inability to get the most out of this Limerick side and win the big games, Scully hardly seems to be a manager of Premier Division quality, which is where Limerick want to be.

    If this keeps up, it will soon be time to seriously reappraise the aims and ambitions for this season. Two much easier games coming up (though Mervue got a decent result tonight), Athlone, and then Longford. A lot of work to be done in that time.

    Edit: Also, hearing the Waterford player popped his elbow, no long term damage. That's just from Waterford Tweeters though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    So, on the actual game...

    Really disappointing. Gamble and Bradley were ok for parts, Gaffney made an effort, nearly everyone else was all over the place. Behan just seemed off the pace big time, the whole mentality was wrong. So many wayward passes, with Waterford looking way better on the ball. Blaming the pitch is one thing, but Limerick should be well used to it. Sheahan failed to have an impact when he came on, some of the crosses from the right in the second half were truly dire. And upfront, just appalling. Losing 1-0 at half time, and the only real effort in the second was that really wayward Gaffney shot, when he had the opportunity to advance. When called to dig deep and put in the extra effort to rescue the game, just like with Longford, the Limerick team just did not have it in them.

    The play for the goal really showcased some defensive weakness, the ball could have been cleared a few times if Limerick were just a bit quicker, a bit more organised. Waterford weren't really that great - they didn't exactly make a lot of chances and were pegged back for large portions - but they took their chance and never looked like they were too pressed.

    Just what is it about the home games? It is so bizarre, seeing Limerick fail to perform in their last two games at Jackman Park, while dominating the opposition at two away games in-between.

    I cannot imagine that Scully has many chances left to get it right in a big home game. I'm not going to be chanting for his head from the sideline just yet, but the temptation to make a change before too much of the season is gone by must be getting bigger and bigger for the boardroom. Aside from his inability to get the most out of this Limerick side and win the big games, Scully hardly seems to be a manager of Premier Division quality, which is where Limerick want to be.

    If this keeps up, it will soon be time to seriously reappraise the aims and ambitions for this season. Two much easier games coming up (though Mervue got a decent result tonight), Athlone, and then Longford. A lot of work to be done in that time.
    Id say that had a lot to do with Derek O'Brien who is a left legged left winger going on the right i just cant see the sense in it.

    The only games that could be considered any way big this year are against Waterfrod and Longford our record in these games is played 3 lost 3 .

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    Yeah, I suppose I should have clarified by saying that it was player positioning, on the right wing, that was totally crazy. What was the thinking? That'd he'd cut outside and put the ball on his left foot? He didn't.

    Also, not suprised to see home attendence down after the Longford game, would expect a furthur drop against Mervue. Team's had their chance to impress the big crowds. Isn't happening.
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    the chairman needs to take responsibility here and act before the season gets away from us act now and we can save it keep thinking scully is the right man and were finished. can you pic sculy in the premier he cant get wins in so called big games in a 8 team league pic him v shams, sligo, derry, st pats, bohs, etc etc he would get owned

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Yeah, I suppose I should have clarified by saying that it was player positioning, on the right wing, that was totally crazy. What was the thinking? That'd he'd cut outside and put the ball on his left foot? He didn't.

    Also, not suprised to see home attendence down after the Longford game, would expect a furthur drop against Mervue. Team's had their chance to impress the big crowds. Isn't happening.
    Heard people say on the way out again tonight that they wouldn't be back while Scully is there thats 2 home games in a row now.

    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post
    the chairman needs to take responsibility here and act before the season gets away from us act now and we can save it keep thinking scully is the right man and were finished. can you pic sculy in the premier he cant get wins in so called big games in a 8 team league pic him v shams, sligo, derry, st pats, bohs, etc etc he would get owned
    Pat O S doesnt make them decisions he has people in charge of that kind of thing and they are really letting him down and wasting his money.....He will have to step in soon before its too late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Heard people say on the way out again tonight that they wouldn't be back while Scully is there thats 2 home games in a row now.



    Pat O S doesnt make them decisions he has people in charge of that kind of thing and they are really letting him down and wasting his money.....He will have to step in soon before its too late.
    ya heard 3 old lads saying a top junior team would put up a better show.
    i agree he is wasting his money he is not getting the value for it the players are there but we have nothing on the sideline no tactics no plan B nothing.

    i wonder what his excuse is after the game tonight i bet he blames the pitch

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    That'd be rich after Athlone and Finn Harps away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomas72 View Post
    ya heard 3 old lads saying a top junior team would put up a better show.
    i agree he is wasting his money he is not getting the value for it the players are there but we have nothing on the sideline no tactics no plan B nothing.

    i wonder what his excuse is after the game tonight i bet he blames the pitch
    The pitch,we played well were unlucky all the usual crap id say.

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    Another big game...Another loss and ****e performance..was anybody really expecting any less?

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    After the last two games, yeah, I was hoping for more. I actually would expect Limerick to win the next two games, but all bets are off after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    After the last two games, yeah, I was hoping for more. I actually would expect Limerick to win the next two games, but all bets are off after that.
    They will and then mes it up against Longford same old same old at this stage.

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    last 3 games we played excellant football then tonight we resort back to long balls up to behan scully should of know after 20mins that the waterford centre half was owning behan in the air and quickly changed it. not to have one shot on target is not good enough pat o sullivan was in front of me and he was saying were 2nd to everything and we have not done a thing tonight. fix it then

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    I thought Limerick played more ground football tonight then they did against Longford, it just didn't work at all. Couldn't strong the passes together past midfield.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Id say that had a lot to do with Derek O'Brien who is a left legged left winger going on the right i just cant see the sense in it.
    Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

    Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

    One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor View Post
    Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

    Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

    One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield
    In fairness to Gaffney he is a striker and was one of the best players in the league playing there for Mervue and he played great stuff on the wing last 2 games.

    The bit in bold hits the nail on the head really we have no creativity at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Whats it to do with any of us to stop anyone why didnt you stop em if you were so worried? How is any of what was said abuse? Half the stand was laughing at what was being said i find it hard to believe they would laugh at someone being abused.
    They were making childish comments about his name being Willy stupid yes abusive not a hope. You need to get a life if you think any of what was said was abuse.
    Are you serious, those abusive comments were disgusting believe it or not some parents do bring kids to matches, im afraid your the one that needs to get a life

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor View Post
    Derek O'Brien finished up on the left and he hit a few identical woeful crosses from that side in the latter stages of the game. We were standing on the bank behind the goals and had the misfortune of witnessing every one of them up close. He was woeful tonight, regardless of what side he was on. One thing I'll give him though is that he's the only player we have that can run with the ball and beat a player, the rest are like training cones in comparison.

    Behan looks unfit and a bit weighty to me, certainly not the lean strong striker that arrived from England last year. Just wondering is that because he has gone from training daily to training only a few nights a week? Isn't the player he was anyway. Gaffney can't cross the ball to save his life, and for the love of god would they cut out that long throw $hit because it does not work and is a waste of possession. We're not Stoke City and we're actually crap in the air.

    One last observation I'd make is that the team are infatuated with getting the ball out wide and ballooning poor crosses in to the box, mostly from poor crossing positions to begin with. What ever happened to the defense splitting pass? Or a one-two, or go mad altogether and maybe have a midfielder run in behind the defense from deep? Our build up play is shocking, no invention, no creativity, all so predictable. Even Waterford were probing and slipping balls in to Maguire, we seem incapable of doing this despite supposedly having a premier division midfield
    I dont think Derek o brien is good enough to get into the side he lacks some confidence at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    .....why in the name of god did he bring on a centre back when we were 1 down needing to score.
    Guthrie was terrible all night that young fella made a show of him.

    Fair enough Brosnan messed up for the goal but Scully could have given him another 10-15 after the break to make up for it instead of taking him off straight away...nice confidence booster for the young fella there...did the same to Bandarker after the first Longford goal,dropped Purcell after the 2nd in that match and also cost Barry Ryan his place...Scully is getting very reactionary he's feeling the stress and rightly so cos in my opinion he's not up to it

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    What was the point having Behan up front on his own again, anytime he did win a ball there was no Limerick player near him so Waterford cleared the ball with ease, not a single shot on target then throwing Purcell up front really says it all!

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