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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    What did Waterford fans make of Kenny Browne last season? He has been immense for us so far this season, hasn't put a foot wrong. Probably surprise of the season so far for me.
    He was shocking and completely disinterested.

    But we all knew he was a brilliantly talented player and the premier division is where he should be.
    I’m not pedantic...I’m merely overly concerned with minute details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gormacha View Post
    I imagine you're being a bit tongue-in-cheek.
    About my claim we could have won 28-0??

    Well spotted.

    All I was saying in a round about way was on the night, on the balance of play we deserved to win and on another night would have done so handsomely.

    There's a big differnece between a defeat like that and a defeat where you're garbage (Longford). That's all.

    Having seen the change in us since the Longford game I'm very confident now. We're bossing teams.

    I'm pretty certain we'll win the thing out handy enough.

    Almost as certain as I am that we'll blow up next week at home to Waterford and lose in front of a biggish crowd.

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    So it was Tommy Barrett who came on up front for Atlone. The poor guy had a nightmare and he surely must be much better than that to be playing League of Ireland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    All I was saying in a round about way was on the night, on the balance of play we deserved to win and on another night would have done so handsomely
    Meh. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are different ways of viewing these things, I suppose. Like did Barca deserve to win last week because of the stats or did Chelsea because they had a gameplan and took their chances? Debatable. We certainly weren't hammered as much as Chelsea were in that game and Limerick were no Barcelona. My view was that we were lucky, but deserved the win. Like Ali against Foreman, we spent a lot of the night on the ropes as Limerick punched themselves out, then sent on our best player (Maguire) for the last ten minutes to deliver the knockout blow. We added a third and should have had a fourth. All I'm saying is, we can each have our own opinion on that game.

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    I don't think you can say that ye deserved to win when Waterford won 3-1.
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    We might not have deserved to win with the squandered chances but 3-1 was harsh.

    Another thing you could say is that the Waterford fans thought it was a great performance and deserved the win after the game and thought it would really push ye on but after a few more losses and draws the same fans were saying ye were just lucky against us. Depending on how a team is going will change on how fans look at specific results. The thoughts of a great bounce back against us from the first result suddenly turns into we were lucky against limerick. After a good win against Wexford the confidence is now back up and the fans are back to thinking they could get a result against us next week even though only a week ago ye probably would have given yerselves no chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    I don't think you can say that ye deserved to win when Waterford won 3-1.
    Are you seriously saying that no ever team has ever had an undeserved defeat? Like ever? I wasn't even at the game in question but that seems a hugely flawed statement...
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    I'm not saying that.
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    Enlighten me then, what point are you making other than 'I don't like LTID much so will contradict him whenever the opportunity arises'?
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    Yes, sadloserkid, he hates Limerick. That was his point. That's all of our points.

    Or perhaps we're just suggesting that in the game in question that Waterford did enough to deserve their win, albeit that they rode their luck in places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    We might not have deserved to win with the squandered chances but 3-1 was harsh.

    Another thing you could say is that the Waterford fans thought it was a great performance and deserved the win after the game and thought it would really push ye on but after a few more losses and draws the same fans were saying ye were just lucky against us. Depending on how a team is going will change on how fans look at specific results. The thoughts of a great bounce back against us from the first result suddenly turns into we were lucky against limerick. After a good win against Wexford the confidence is now back up and the fans are back to thinking they could get a result against us next week even though only a week ago ye probably would have given yerselves no chance.
    That's all probably fair comment. Supporters of all clubs are always desperately searching for a narrative to their season ("we're fantastic!" "We're unlucky." "The FAI has it in for us."), and I suspect that the narratives they invent change constantly to account for every twist and turn, when no narrative can probably capture the vagaries of a long season. As a Blue, I have settled on "inconsistent", which seems to capture the wild swings in form that my team goes through.

    What's Limerick's narrative this season? "Grossly underperforming in relation to squad and monies spent?" Or, "finding their feet, and likely to go on and win at a canter"? Or, as is more likely, a mixture of both, with loads of other subtelties that are rarely discussed?

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    I was at the game - we deserved nothing more than we got. We had loads of possession but did very little with it. We looked superb for the first 15 minutes, then after we were denied a little space in the middle, we resorted to hoofing it long. 2nd half we passed the ball again, looked good, got our goal, got hit on the break, and resorted to hoofing it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gormacha View Post
    Yes, sadloserkid, he hates Limerick. That was his point. That's all of our points.
    Where did I say he hates Limerick (or any of you for that matter)? Go back and read it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by gormacha View Post
    Or perhaps we're just suggesting that in the game in question that Waterford did enough to deserve their win, albeit that they rode their luck in places.
    I absolutely accept that. From you. As I presume you were at the game. I wasn't and I doubt LTFC was either. His expert analysis is grounded wholly (IMO) in his feelings towards specific posters and has nothing to do with the game in question. Or you. Or I.
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    Where did I say he hates Limerick (or any of you for that matter)? Go back and read it again.
    Where did I say 'I don't like LTID much so will contradict him whenever the opportunity arises'?? Go back and read it again.


    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    I absolutely accept that. From you. As I presume you were at the game. I wasn't and I doubt LTFC was either. His expert analysis is grounded wholly (IMO) in his feelings towards specific posters and has nothing to do with the game in question. Or you. Or I.
    Where did I claim that it was expert analysis? It isn't. And that is a absolutely ridiculous opinion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    Where did I say 'I don't like LTID much so will contradict him whenever the opportunity arises'?? Go back and read it again.
    Ah the parrot defence, good man. I inferred your feelings on the matter from this post: http://foot.ie/threads/163317-2012-a...t=#post1587772

    I don't think it was a particularly big jump on my part.

    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    Where did I claim that it was expert analysis? It isn't. And that is a absolutely ridiculous opinion!
    Where did I claim that you claimed it was expert analysis? I agree with you that it isn't though. In fact, regardless of what you think of this opinion, I think it's mindblowingly wrong (I had less fair words in here but settled on wrong) to state, with as much authority as you did that a team couldn't have deserved to get something from a game that they lost 3-1 that you weren't even at!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    Ah the parrot defence, good man. I inferred your feelings on the matter from this post: http://foot.ie/threads/163317-2012-a...t=#post1587772

    I don't think it was a particularly big jump on my part.
    I called him an idiot. And rightly so, it was a stupid post. Didn't say that I had any particular dislike for him, I don't really care.

    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    Where did I claim that you claimed it was expert analysis? I agree with you that it isn't though. In fact, regardless of what you think of this opinion, I think it's mindblowingly wrong (I had less fair words in here but settled on wrong) to state, with as much authority as you did that a team couldn't have deserved to get something from a game that they lost 3-1 that you weren't even at!
    I quoted you above.

    It isn't mindblowingly wrong. I said that I thought that Limerick didn't deserve to win after losing 3-1. No authority there at all. I just said what I thought. I would agree with you if Limerick lost one nil, with Waterford scoring a dodgy penalty, or the referee kicked it in for them. Anyway, I really only care about my own club's results, so I've enough of this rubbish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    I've enough of this rubbish.
    Me too. Let's move on and put this behind us.
    The ball is round and has many surprises.

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    LTID always gets at least a dozen replies

    Sorry guys, the wording of my posts was very clumsy with hindsight.

    The Waterford game was nowhere near as worrying as the Longford game performance wise.

    There, that'll do.

    It's all a bit moot either way (perish the thought of an internet argument being irrelevant) as for the last few weeks we've being playing like the expensively assembled superstars we are.

    Anyways, I promise to try to be more careful in future. x x
    Last edited by Lim till i die; 25/04/2012 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    I don't think you can say that ye deserved to win when Waterford won 3-1.
    Quote Originally Posted by L.T.F.C. View Post
    I called him an idiot. And rightly so, it was a stupid post. Didn't say that I had any particular dislike for him, I don't really care.

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    Anyway, all that unpleasantness behind us, potentially big weekend ahead in the First Division.

    If Limerick and Longford get the results they should then we could see an SPL type situation developing in the First Division with two pulling away at the top (bags Celtic)

    If, on the otherhand, either Athlone or Waterford get a result they'll fancy their chances and the whole things a bit more open all of a sudden.

    My prediction:

    Athlone Town 0 2 Longford Town
    Limerick 1 2 Waterford

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